<p>If people are risk takers, than their prestigious degree is irrelevant. Prestigious degrees from good schools are for people WHO ARE NOT RISK TAKERS nor for entrepreneurs who do not seek a good paying and secure job in business and industry. In a way, that prestigious degree may hamper a person’s success, because with that degree purportedly comes a good job at a good salary and there is too much risk in turning such a job down to go out on your own.</p>
<p>But if a person does not have that prestigious degree to fall back on, if they have to make it on their own and they are willing to take some risks in doing so, they can leave the corporate guys in the dust. </p>
<p>No matter how prestigious the degree, anybody who is an “employee” is subserviant to somebody else. That means you are supervised and often controlled like a puppet on a string.</p>
<p>So my suggestion to OP is to get the degree to feel good about yourself. Then go out and be an agent and eventually a broker and try to knock the ball out of the ball park. Clearly you want to go out on your own but are letting something hold you back. Ignore the naysayers and take your best shot.</p>
<p>Why did you post a list of all those schools? I never said people only respect Catholic/Jesuit schools or that no one respects Baptist schools, I said that Liberty doesn’t get respect. Completely different.</p>
<p>That’s not what you’re doing. You are practicing religious discrimination and depending on the organization you work for, makes it subject to a lawsuit based on your personal practices. Does your employer know that you are potentially opening up a can of worms?</p>
<p>And let me also state that although I personally think it naive to believe the earth only 6000 years old, that has nothing to do with the overall quality of education Liberty students are getting. I know nothing about Liberty, but I do know that your opinions are myopic and potentially are leading to illegal practices.</p>
<p>I’m with skiblack. I’d prefer to see LU drop the entire evolution/young earth required class as I think it unduly makes LU the focus of too much negative press. But I’m not religious either and LU is a religion based school. I don’t see how that impacts most of the academics as it has nothing to do with education in engineering, the arts, or business or even most aspects of the sciences. I know their teacher education, nursing, engineering and other programs are well regarded in the state. The aviation related programs are in huge demand. For the money LU is not a bad deal at all and I think the upside is very high. JFjr is much less given to bombastic statements and operates more like the lawyer and finance guy he is. I see more moderation in the future on many fronts. They are far less dependent now on conservative donors which gives them a financial freedom they did not enjoy early on.</p>
<p>Depends on whether the rejection is based partially/mostly on the perceived inadequacy of a given curriculum needed for further advanced study. Recalled a plaintiff sued because he/she was rejected by one of the UCs because their Christian fundamentalist private high school refused to teach evolution in their biological science classes which the UCs argued meant that the plaintiff didn’t have the prereqs to be admitted to major in a biological related science or to fulfill the HS science graduation requirements to be admitted in general. Recalled the court ended up siding with the UCs by saying they had valid academic reasons for rejecting the candidate which had nothing to do with religious discrimination.</p>
<p>Basically, the issue in that case was the Christian private high school in question refused to cover Evolution which meant their biological science courses didn’t meet California’s science education standards needed to fulfill HS science prereqs for UC admission or worse…provided enough background for students hoping to major in a biological related science/premed/take an intro course in those areas.</p>
<p>I know that,I read your post. That’s why I said LU teaches both. LU also has an affiliated HS which I would assume takes a similar approach at that level.</p>
<p>Also old-line std US med schools recruiting at LU now.</p>
<p>“Medical College of Wisconsin will be on campus on Wednesday, September 25.”
LU career services</p>
<p>The average age of college first-year students is 24 1/2. I see NO reason why you shouldn’t try real estate for a number of years and see if it suits you. And by then, if it doesn’t, you might have a better idea of what you hope to get out of college.</p>
<p>Don’t know a lot about RE but I know in a lot of these “make tons of money with no college fields” they tend to focus on the highest earners not the average. Acting is a good example. I know some RE Agents and while some make pretty good money others struggle. Also, they’ve been in business for quite a while.</p>
<p>Why would you “subtract military”? They don’t count?</p>
<p>Some community colleges also have some basic courses in Real Estate. Real Estate is hard work, of course, but that’s true of most fields where your income is (mostly) dependent on the amount of work you put in.</p>
<p>No but they are on a unique self-selected track to defer school often to get future GI Bill benefits. Not typical part of general population or an option many want to take.</p>
<p>When I hire employees, I definitely consider the caliber of the University the degrees are from. And my perception is that Liberty U is of very low caliber academically. And online schools are also generally of low caliber academically. I’m sure that I’m not alone in this perception.</p>
<p>Online degrees are complete garbage. They mean absolutely nothing and you don’t get any of the real benefits of college. </p>
<p>If you get an online degree, why waste so much time and money? Just pay $500 to a degree mill to get your diploma mailed to you ASAP. It will confer the exact same benefit the online degree does - absolutely nothing except technically having a “degree”.</p>
<p>I agree that many schools offer online courses, but are those students also taking classroom courses, or are the students * only* taking online courses?</p>
<p>As somebody who has done 2 years of in person college vs. 2 online classes at Liberty. I will tell you the 2 classes I took at Liberty were by far more rigorous then any of my other classes I’ve ever taken. I am 26 so I have work experience and have been exposed to the world, so I can see why an 18 year old should definitely get the on campus experience. However to “poo poo” the degree because it was completed online shows your ignorance. For many it is the only viable option and schools like Liberty for example are NON-PROFIT. I can see why a For-Profit online school can bring up questions of it’s quality due to the clear conflict of interest between wanting to push people through to get their money. Having actually experienced the online classes at a Christian college I would take a lot of other things away from it. A.) the candidate probably has ethics being a christian. B.) the candidate is a self starter as demonstrated by juggling work and school work online with no professors to constantly remind them. </p>
<p>As an ethical athiest I take umbrage at this comment.</p>
<p>A few things are getting mixed up in this discussion. To clarify:</p>
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<li><p>“Degrees” from a for-profit institution (either online or in-person) are to many people (myself included) are of little or no value because of the dubious education standards and the overall mission of the institution. The mission of a for-profit enterprise is to return value to the shareholders. Any other purpose (including providing serious intellectual inquiry) can and must be secondarday or they are abrogating their responsibility to their shareholders.</p></li>
<li><p>Degrees from institutions that devalue intellectual inquiry and deny scientific facts (regardless of whether the degree was online or in-person) are of no value as well. You can’t be taken seriousy about ANY subject if you insist that the earth is 6,000 years old. And this is not a religious discrimination issue. I don’t care WHY you think the world is 6,000 years old, the fact that you’re comfortable rejecting the evidence to the contrary is the operative point.</p></li>
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