<p>Why is the school ranked 80th? I mean god damn, I just don't understand. I was planning on applying to the school, but now I'm not sure...I thought it was a great school before and is very cheap. Anyone has any reasoning for the ranking?</p>
<p>Ratings don’t mean anything so don’t worry. Binghamton is one of the best schools for the price you are paying. It is a very well respected school so you should definitely apply there.</p>
<p>You obviously don’t know much about rankings. An 80 is a good rank. All the state schools funded by hundreds of alumni and ivy leagues get into the top spots…</p>
<p>As rankings go, Binghamton consitently does well. You should visit and/or do some more research, other than various rankings, to see if this school is a fit for you.</p>
<p>I think the 92% freshman retention rate speaks for itself. Regardless of all other ratings, 92% of Binghamton University Students decide to return after their freshman year. This is excellent, considering that overall, 25% of college freshman do not return. There’s clearly something about Binghamton University that makes students want to return. It could possibly be the academics, community, social life, beauty of the campus, or more! I’ve only been here for 2 weeks and am absolutely in love with the school. You should check us out! ;)</p>
<p>Useful reading:
[Binghamton</a> University - About: Binghamton at a Glance](<a href=“http://www2.binghamton.edu/about/binghamton-at-a-glance.html]Binghamton”>http://www2.binghamton.edu/about/binghamton-at-a-glance.html)</p>
<p>Binghamton has a very solid education for a pretty good price. There are some things I don’t like about the school, but I can’t deny the fact that the academics are great.</p>
<p>Yeah I wouldn’t trust the rankings either. In all honesty, it’s about the money. Many of the other schools have a lot of money and thus get better rankings. But if you compare the Middle 50% of first year SAT scores of Binghamton with those ranked higher, you’ll notice that more than half of those ranked higher have LOWER first year SAT scores. Here’s an example:</p>
<p>Binghamton being ranked 80 had
SAT Critical Reading: 580 - 660
SAT Math: 610 - 690
ACT Composite: 26 - 29</p>
<p>Syracuse whose rank is 58 (22 ranks higher) had
SAT Critical Reading: 520 - 620
SAT Math: 550 - 650
ACT Composite: 23 - 28</p>
<p>All data from collegeboard.com</p>
<p>Ultimately, Binghamton has better students. Rankings don’t have much credibility. Binghamton is a decent school, just really dirt-poor.</p>
<p>…on any college, go to students review dot com. That’s students, plural and review, singular. </p>
<p>I don’t know which ranking you are looking at, as there are several besides US News. Mychances dot net puts Bing and SB down around 200 out of all colleges. </p>
<p>Different rankings may measure different things. Bing and SB suffer from the same problems, TA’s teaching classes, professors that seem uncaring and are difficult to understand, large classes, and an uncaring buerocracy(sp?).It is apparently a problem at many SUNYs that they seem to hire professors that speak English as a second language. I can only imagine trying to grasp difficult material and then compounding that with a professor with a heavy accent.</p>
<p>Bing also suffers from depressing weather, though I’m not sure if it is in a valley or what. People complain much more about the weather at Bing than at other upstate SUNYs.</p>
<p>…that many students apply to Bing as an academic or scholastic safety school. Many of these people apply to very selective colleges, and then for whatever reason, find themselves not in the Ivy League, but at a SUNY. Could be a rude wake up call for a lot of people that were expecting a nurturing environment and a preppy atmosphere at a rah rah school.</p>
<p>While in general I dont entirely disagree with some your criticisms. I think your being naïve to believe that these are solely SUNY issues. You fail to realize these are the very same problems at many state and private schools. Large undergrad classes (especially during the first couple of years) with TAs/Professors that are hard to understand is a typical compliant including at some prestigious universities and the uncaring school bureaucracy, well thats a shocker. I got to believe most students dont think highly of their school administration procedures and policies no matter were they go. So while SUNY Bing may not be nirvana theres a lot of worst places to end up, its not always greener on the other side.</p>
<p>Also your assessment that Bing is a safety school may be a little outdated. Last year the undergrad acceptance rate was just 33%. While that does not compete with the Ivys or the more prestigious institutions, for a state school that its right up there as one of the hardest to get into. Just compare it to other state and private school acceptance rates and you relatively speaking its one of more selective schools (especially for a state). I would ask the 2/3 rds who applied and got rejected from this years fall class if they think Bing is a safety school.</p>
<p>Lastly with regards why people come to Bing: I dont think its a mystery, the facts are not everybody gets into Harvard and not everyone is able to afford $50+ K a year tuition. These little issues will keep schools like Bing which is known for having smart students, a decent reputation and providing a good education for an inexpensive price in demand for years to come.</p>
<p>demonfireangel, for you to bring up the notion the notion that Bing has better students than Syracuse based off SAT is pretty moronic. </p>
<p>And you’re definitely correct on a school’s ranking improving because of money. Obviously if a school has a ton of money, then alumnis are giving much more. If alumnis are giving much more then there is something special about the institution that makes these graduates want to share part of their wealth with. This is why alumni giving rate is a measurement.</p>
<p>House of London: I think it’s hard to define who’s a “better student.” I actually haven’t been in both schools for a thorough amount of time to judge, but from a statistical standpoint, which most of these rankings are based on, the students in Bing ARE better than those in Syracuse. Just compare the high school GPA’s of 1st year students:</p>
<p>Binghamton:
48% in top 10th of graduating class
83% in top quarter of graduating class
97% in top half of graduating class</p>
<p>50% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
20% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
14% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
8% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
6% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.0 and 2.49
1% had h.s. GPA between 1.0 and 1.99</p>
<p>Syracuse:
39% in top 10th of graduating class
74% in top quarter of graduating class
97% in top half of graduating class</p>
<p>42% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
21% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
17% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
13% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
6% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.0 and 2.49</p>
<p>Again, all data from collegeboard.com</p>
<p>I think these numbers speak for themselves. I don’t think you’re in any position to be calling anybody “moronic.” I’ve provided data to prove my point. Have you? These data have been consistent in the last few years.</p>
<p>If GPA and SAT scores aren’t indicators for comparing students, then what are? Extracurricular activities? Teacher recommendations? College essays? How do you compare that between students? College rankings are based on statistics, yet some schools whose students have lower credentials get better rankings. They put more weight on money and fancy buildings than student quality. I want to go to a school where everyone is smart. I could care less if a school’s got a football stadium.</p>