Dear All : Happy Thanksgiving to you all today! I wanted to offer some thoughts on three observations in this thread regarding acceptances and yield numbers.
[#1] Using the Boston College Fact Book, review the colleges and universities to which accepted and enrolled Boston College students most often applied as self-reported during student orientation sessions. The Top 12 cross-application schools include the following from 2015.
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Ivy League : Harvard, Penn, Brown, Cornell, Yale
Boston Area : Boston University, Tufts
Other Schools : Georgetown, Notre Dame, Villanova, Virginia, Duke
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Each of the Ivy League schools now sports an acceptance rate around 10%. When you compete in that strata, your number of acceptances will be larger as the yield can potentially be lower. When adding the other schools, similarly competitive, you see a continued drain of the overall talent pool of students, thereby making the yield numbers seem artifically worse.
Bucknell, along with Lehigh, Lafayette, Muhlenberg and similar, are wonderful schools based in Pennsylvania. Comparing Bucknellâs rates with those of Boston College is an impossible task as the two schools do not compete in the same cohort group.
[#2] The assertion that self-selection (based on religious or other factors, raised by TurnerT) impacts acceptance rates makes little sense. If this yearâs class was self-selected, so was last yearâs and so forth. The number of acceptances needs to remain consistent in order to fill an incoming class with an assumed yield rate. With an application pool reduced to ~25,000 after the introduction of Boston College essays and now again exceeding the 30,000 mark, it would be difficult to say that a culling process occurred. Recognizing these application procedural changes makes for a very important differentiation when interpretting acceptance data.
[#3] Universities can certainly game the system by decreasing acceptance rates and increasing yields by ⊠lowering standards. That comes at a cost of reputation. So, the gaming process is not as simple as you think. Further, spending per student, the so-called tuition âdiscount rateâ, can be increased through merit awards to counter losing students towards the top end of the applicant pool. Boston College does NOT have a true merit scholarship system (despite the Presidential Program) which can also tilt statistics after the acceptance phase once financial aid awards are announced. You can read numerous stories on College Confidential where families could not afford BC once the final price tag was presented. Meeting 100% of demonstrated need does NOT mean the same thing to everyone. Despite a $1.4B endowment, that is not drawn down as a piggy bank for incoming students.
In closing, acceptance data, yield data, and enrolled class standards are all very interesting data points, but are very difficult to compare across institutions.