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<p>Um, that scares me. What's good for children should not be determined by a political party, but by parents.</p>
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<p>You're kidding, right? Morality is synonymous with "good" in a philosophical context. If something advances "the good", then it is moral. The tough part is just figuring out what "the good" is.</p>
<p>So, yes, laws have everything to do with morality. We make murder illegal because we value the right to life and thus consider the abridgment of that right to be immoral. Stop repeating your silly platitudes and grow up.</p>
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<p>So, yes, laws have everything to do with morality. We make murder illegal because we value the right to life and thus consider the abridgment of that right to be immoral. Stop repeating your silly platitudes and grow up.
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<p>Laws don't have everything to do with morality. Maybe if you only read Hobbes they do, but most philosophers don't by necessity equate good with legal. You're right in saying that morality is determined by what is "good" and what is "good" is a difficult thing to figure out, but it is not always what is legal. </p>
<p>Murder may be one situation where it is a good law, but there's a law in South Dakota right now that gives rapist parental rights--is that moral? Just because it is a law does not necessarily make it right. Or if someone decides to grow and then smoke pot in their house, doing no harm to anyone else, is that immoral?? Don't just think well it's illegal so automatically it's immoral, try to see them each in their own light. Or, it's perfectly legal to be mean to people and go through life as a jerk, constantly making promises and breaking them, cheating on their spouse etc, but is it moral?</p>
<p>Law have everything to do with society, but not by necessity morality.</p>
<p><em>i was a memeber of the college democrats in campus and we had a lot of people in our group. the colege republicans only had maybe five. it seemed to me that the democrats are more willing to stand up for what they believe in, whereas the republicans are more go with the flow. the democrats would be on campus handing out flyers, pins, balloons, whatever people asked us for.. whereas the republicans were nowhere to be found... but at the same time i know there were other republicans. my one roommate was a republican and she never once went to a college republicans meeting and she would throw hissy fits when we came home with our democrat stuff</em></p>
<p>The Republicans probably aren't making themselves known because it'd be almost suicidal, especially for your GPA. If your liberal college professor ever finds out your a conservative and you're in a subjectively graded class (i.e: lots of essays), that makes it a lot harder to get an A or a B, let alone pass. </p>
<p><em>Because the students have never worked for a living and the the professors don't live in the real world. The Ivory Tower is a very contrived existence.</em></p>
<p>You win this topic. As people grow older and enter the real world, they'll generally regret their liberal college views and either become a more conservative liberal, moderate, or just plain conservative. </p>
<p>Why else do you think that the conservative birthrate (according to an article I read in the USA Today a while back) is higher than the liberal one? Because after having kids, people tend to have more conservative views ("You know, maybe that thrice convicted molester DOESN'T belong back on the streets again..."). This being said, a very interesting response to that article a couple of days later asked why liberals were so intent on having control (more control actually) over public schools and colleges.</p>
<p>Anyway, what myself and several other conservatives have suggested in the past is good advice: stay in the hard sciences and math courses (where the answer is either right or wrong) as much as possible and it shouldn't be that bad.</p>
<p>Laws are meant to maximize utility. For example, most people would agree it's immoral if someone came up to you, asked you for the time, and you told them an outright lie. But no one in there right mind would ever say that lying about the time should be outlawed. Also driving on the wrong side of the road is against the law, but there's nothing immoral about driving on the wrong side of the road.</p>
<p>Well, it also depends what school you go to, thats why I am making sure the school I decide to go to isn't too liberal...(top 3 are notre dame, washington and lee, and hillsdale)</p>
<p>In my mind, there's a sort of tug-of-war going on between liberal collegiate institutions and a good education. This is because, in my opinion, most of the less liberal colleges in the country are conservative in all the wrong ways. It's hard to pick good, politically balanced schools. I'd say good bets are Duke, Dartmouth, Princeton, Middlebury, and a few others. Yale can be ok too, but the conservatism there is less of the fiery intellectual type you get at its more rugged counterpart (Dartmouth) and more of the old money type.</p>