Why is Cornell's Internet Bandwidth soo low?

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Good thing I'm not going to Cornell. (Actually bandwidth was one of the reasons I decided to turn Cornell down)

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<p>Wow...</p>

<p>(10 c's)</p>

<p>WAS ONE of the reasons..</p>

<p>others included:
much more grant money from Penn
bioengineering better at Penn
didn't want to be in Ithaca (sorta rural)</p>

<p>And seriously, why not? If I use about 100GB a month, thats additional $1300 or so added onto Cornell tuition</p>

<p>Yeah guys... raghavp is not an idiot... I highly doubt bandwidth was the ONE AND ONLY reason he decided against Cornell. It was probably just one of the factors in his evaluation of which school would better suit him.</p>

<p>For example... last summer, when I was looking for an apartment, internet access and even cable provider (type, speed, etc) were factors in my decision. </p>

<p>I spend a litshoad of time online. Mostly for work and research... but yes, there might be quite a few <em>cough</em> large downloads <em>cough</em> consistently going in the background. I would hate to always worry about going over a limit. Especially for something that I have been accustom to being unlimited.</p>

<p>Of course an apartment is not as big of a deal as a college--I know that--but the point is that some things matter more to some than to others. </p>

<p>Bottom line: Cornell's internet access policy blows. I think we can all agree ;)</p>

<p>if you use 1000GB a month, you should get out more</p>

<p>100 GB a month OUTSIDE of file-sharing is stupid
there is absolutely nothing you are doing that could use 100 GB a month consistently</p>

<p>except for hosting files on your personal machine for others to download? i guess?</p>

<p>if you really do have some kind of legitimate reason for using that much bandwith, outside of p2p, then i take it all back. but i REALLY REALLY doubt it.
(and i reiterate that the DC++ sharing between you and the 20,000 other users doesn't count for that bandwith limit)</p>

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<p>if you really do have some kind of legitimate reason for using that much bandwith, outside of p2p, then i take it all back. but i REALLY REALLY doubt it.</p>

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<p>Well, since I am the network/IT person for my dad's business, I have to manage their servers. This involves me transferring the "X" or window from various different computers to mine in order to make sure everything is ok. If I'm within my network, thats perfectly fine. If, say, I had to do that from my dorm in college (which I almost certainly would have to) it would require a LARGE amount of data transfer. </p>

<p>Other legitimate reasons include google video, transferring patches to open-source projects etc. </p>

<p>In summary, large bandwidth does not necessarily mean illegal/p2p activity.</p>

<p>you guys are making excuses. there should be no cap. I don't care if "there is no way you can use xx GB" or "if you use xx GB, you should get out more."</p>

<p>Bill Gates once said "No body will ever need more than 640k RAM." Yeah, OK. People: You shouldn't just think about the here and now.</p>

<p>If you impose unnecessary limits, then we will stay limited in innovation. I don't know about you... and yes, this might be off topic. But I want the ability to stream HD video to my computer. Whether it is for movies, or for some biology research I am doing. This needs bandwidth.</p>

<p>There should be no cap.</p>

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What happens if you go over?

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<p>You get charged for it, of course. I don't know the exact rate, but it's not too bad.</p>

<p>$1.5 per GB... i personally think that's a lot :&lt;/p>

<p>Well we can all cross our fingers and hope that the bandwith limit is eliminated at some point during our stay at Cornell (hopefully this fall) or we can protest it once we get there.</p>

<p>why would it be eliminated? is there talk of it being eliminated?</p>

<p>oh yeah... and a few stats:
<a href="http://www.cit.cornell.edu/resnet/faqs/metrics.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cit.cornell.edu/resnet/faqs/metrics.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The FAQ says they have an OC3 connection. That's 153 mbit (not byte) per second, which is 19 megabytes per second. seems a bit low for a fairly large research institution</p>

<p>Average Monthly Usage Charge (10/05): $3.14
Average Monthly Usage Charge (Averaged Just For Those Subscribers With Usage Charges): $11.56
Tuition per month: $3,280.00</p>

<p>Suddenly I don't feel as bad about paying a little extra every month for internet usage.</p>

<p>comperable to a typical connection at home (45 $ a month) the 25 $ charge for resnet included in your room and board allows for 20 dollars of extra service, (13 GB?) at the same price. yes 15 GB (counting the 13 i just mentioned) is the non-paying threshhold, but it isn't a limit; you can use as much bandwith as you want, just not for free.</p>

<p>but seriously
you can get any p2p file you'd need from within the local network, so how are you all (with the exception of running an IT department from your dorm room) planning on breaking that 15 GB barrier?</p>

<p>I need to use IRC to get my anime. That eats up a ton of bandwidth a month.</p>

<p>could someone enlighten me? i have no idea what u guys are talking about. how does bandwith limitation affect the average internet user?</p>

<p>abike, 2GB/month is LOW for anyone. If you use the internet even frequently (2-3hrs/day) for anything: iTunes, web-browsing, e-mail, AIM, you will probably exceed the limit.</p>

<p>oh, for the others saying that since the fees are low enough, you could have basically all you wanted and not cross the $45 barrier from your home, consider that your entire family can use that $45 connection whereas here only you can.</p>

<h2>w/e.. its sort of useless arguing, really. </h2>

<p>On a different note:</p>

<p>Recently, there was news about DC++ at various universities getting shut down by MPAA/RIAA. They apparently didn't give a list but told the individual universities to shut it down. Anything similar at Cornell?</p>

<p>BTW, it is 5GB/month next year. Right now it's 2GB but they're changing it to 5.</p>

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Well, since I am the network/IT person for my dad's business, I have to manage their servers. ...... If, say, I had to do that from my dorm in college (which I almost certainly would have to) it would require a LARGE amount of data transfer.

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<p>Sounds like business usage to me. IMO the business should be paying for the bandwidth.</p>