Why is Duke so underrated in these forums?

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<p>I'm really really curious. It's the same for Columbia and Penn as well...</p>

<p>I've always thought these 3 universities are second to HYPSM in terms for reputation and selectivity. When I went through my college search, I compiled a bunch of lists and websites just for research sake. When I went to talk to my college counselors and what not, they always mentioned Duke with Harvard and Brown...</p>

<p>Why is it so underrated here? Did the lacrosse case 4 years ago touch a nerve or something?</p>

<p>Here's a few information I've found about Duke. Aside from the fact it doesn't have as much Nobel Prizes as HYPSM, everything seems to be great about it. I'm not saying it should be at HYPSM's level. But I'm just asking why everyone here seems to hate it. </p>

<p>2007</a> list of BB Summer Associate class by colleges | WallStreetOasis.com
Duke ranks above Yale on this one...</p>

<p>Where</a> the Fortune 50 CEOs Went to College - TIME
Harvard's count is 3 here...Duke is 2.
Stanford and Yale are 1.</p>

<p>What's</a> Your College Degree Worth? - Businessweek
Duke ranks in the top 10 for Payscale</p>

<p>America’s</a> Best Universities for 2009
These are Google Rankings on College...I don't know what basis, but they showed up. And Duke is 7th. Above Yale and Princeton!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/pdfs/wsj_college_092503.pdf&lt;/a>
Wall Street Journal...Duke ranks right after HYPSM</p>

<p>The-Billionaire-Universities:</a> Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance
Duke ranks 11th on number of billionaires produced. Isn't that good considering its a new university?</p>

<p>Top</a> 100 Universities in USA
Duke ranks 10th in these rankings</p>

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Duke is ranked 6th. Columbia (not Harvard) is 1.</p>

<p>Guide</a> to studying abroad -

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USA and UK have some of the world’s best universities. In these countries, universities are ranked on the basis of their popularity and academic quality. Out of 5,000 universities in USA, the most popular ones are the 12 so-called Ivy league universities - that includes Harvard University, Columbia, Duke, Stanford, Chicago, Yale, Pennsylvania, Princeton, California Institute and Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

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<p>Invest</a> Like the Ivy League? - CXO Advisory

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The following chart, taken from the paper, summarizes average returns in excess of the S&P 500 index by school type for all schools reporting in ten or more years during 1992-2005. “Ivy Plus” includes the Ivy League along with Duke, MIT, Caltech and Stanford

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<p>Even Wikipedia says the Ivy League generally includes MIT and Stanford. Duke University and UChicago also.</p>

<p>I just don't get why someone hates a university so much...I mean that's like being disrespectful to people who go to Duke...wouldn't you get defensive if someone hurts your alma mater like that?
I just wanted to point that out..out of my entire experience in gathering data and searching for colleges, I found many examples of Duke treated very elitely..except on these boards!</p>

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<p>If anyone’s curious as to why I care, its because of that disgusting thread about trading degrees started by DunninLA. Why pick on poor Duke?</p>

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<p>I dunno, some people here think that Duke just doesn’t cut it. But there are always gonna be haters, you can’t reasonably expect that everyone in the world will share your opinion.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1138301-what-would-you-pay-swap-duke-degree-yale-degree.html?highlight=duke[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1138301-what-would-you-pay-swap-duke-degree-yale-degree.html?highlight=duke&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>DHYPSM?</p>

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<p>I’m glad the moderators moved the crying party over to the Duke forum. :-)</p>

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<p>@OP: I don’t think we should really care about haters. Haters will be haters, and if we consider that the majority of people coming to this forum are Ivy League wannabes, I think there are plenty of reasons for them to dislike Duke.</p>

<p>FYI, the good news is that there are many people who reject HYPMS to come to Duke.</p>

<p>Also, out of curiosity, where are you currently/ gonna be enrolled at? I do hope it’s Duke ;)</p>

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<p>^looks like Olin, an awesome engineering school.</p>

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<p>Because we are chill like that and really can’t be bothered to get into a p!ssing contest on CollegeConfidential?</p>

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<p>Who said anything bad about duke? Duke is an awesome school. I think schools in the south generally don’t get as much attention as their northern counterparts</p>

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<p>This, I think, hit the nail on the head. Southern schools (and Western and Midwestern schools) are regarded as regional in a way that NE schools are not.</p>

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<p>There have been a few obnoxious pro-Duke ■■■■■■ on this forum over the past few years. You should look up ring<em>of</em>fire. This provoked more than a little bitterness.</p>

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<p>Because it’s not in the “Ivy League” forum.</p>

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<p>Every school outside of HYPSM is subject to some baseless trashtalk. Those ppl are just ignorant ans should be treated as such</p>

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<p>I thin one of the reasons is that it’s known for more than just academics. It’s a research university where you can get a world-class education, along with the other schools you mentioned, but in addition it’s “that basketball team I hate” or “the school from that lacrosse scandal” or “where the girl who made that **** list powerpoint went,” which unfortunately puts less emphasis on the former.</p>