Why not Canada???

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Sooo many engineers and doctors driving taxis and delivering pizzas, it's ridiculous.

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<p>This only applies to those who got their degrees outside of Canada (at least for immigrant doctors). Otherwise, in some cases it's a language issue: it's hard to get a decent job if one's mastery of English (or French) is simply insufficient.</p>

<p>No, most of them speak good enough English (or French). The real issue is massive barriers erected by professional associations to block incoming labour and thus keep local wages high. These associations like to say they are protecting the public interest, but what they are most interested in protecting are their own paychecks -- at the expense of Canadian consumers, Canadian taxpayers, and the Canadian sick and elderly.</p>

<p>It's amazing, Canadian news is still full of b**ching and whining about the lack of doctors, and so-called "brain drain" to the US. In reality, there are loads of doctors, engineers and other professionals coming INTO Canada, who want to work not live off welfare, who speak enough English to do the job (and will obviously improve with time) but are prevented from doing what they were trained to do because of special interest groups.</p>

<p>I don't know much to offer any opinion. But one of my ex-roomates, who graduated from UBC and went to Cornell for grad school told me it's not easy to get a decent prof job. This is a guy whose English is probably better than many native speakers' (albeit slight accent). I don't know if it's true. It's just what he told me.</p>

<p>From what i have gathered from the posts in this thread, the no of undergraduate students is very high in Canada.....this may be one of the reasons that getting a nice job is tough(specially for intls)........
But is this true for Graduate Programs also???? I am assuming that the no. of ppl pursuing higher studies after undergrad must be low and the ppl having Master's or Phd's are highly specialized and skilled.....so there should be companies willing to recruit them even if they are internationals???</p>

<p>Canada is an amazing place for tertiar education, especially McGill, U Toronto and UBC. These give an education that rivals those of the ivy leagues, stanford, MIT in the US or Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial in the UK. But employers in asia and many other parts of the world dont value canadian education as much thus its name recognition is not as high. The cold weather is also another turn off. Another problem with canada is its big class size as mentioned by others here and thus the big fish in the pond effect.</p>

<p>I agree with supernerd on that. I know as a fact that it's MUCH easier to be accepted to prestigious colleges in the Canada for Internationals than it's in the US. Probably because the large student body allows a bigger acceptance pool. Anyone I know who've applied to UBC or Toronto in the past have been accepted... although not necessarily with a good amount of financial aid. Some Canadian universities like Carleton are very generous with giving financial aid and even if they didn't co-op programs and assistantships can get you a good way in. Also Candian universities are much cheaper than the average top private university in the US so if they pay less, you can't really compare. Canada is a fantastic place for education just like the UK and US (UK universities are misers btw) and I think they have more oppurtunities prior to graduating for their undergrads.</p>

<p>Supern3rd I don't think cold weather would be a Turn off.....</p>

<p>What the hell is Canada?</p>

<p>It's KA-NA-TA actually. My Waterloo friend told me the story of how the name Canada came to be... and according to him 'Kanata' was heard/pronounced as 'Canada' and that's how the name came to be... I forget the story.</p>

<p>America Jr</p>

<p>Canada finds itself by locating the USA and going north, much like Mexicans find America by locating Mexico and going north.</p>

<p>How about Alaska? :D</p>

<p>I encourage everyone considering Canadian study to check out the current exchange rate to Canadian dollars to their native country currency. True, many currencies, including the US dollar enjoyed the relationship for decades, and Canadian study was inexpensive. Recently, however, the CAD has reach all-time highs. The USD, for example, is at near-parity with the CAD. This precedent will impact all costs of living for international students, including those associated with international travel.</p>

<p>There are many exchange rate sites on the web. I use: <a href="http://www.x-rates.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.x-rates.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>i'm applying to US unis onlycause they are much more pretigious than the ones in Canada (except Mcgill maybe)...the thing I really dislike about Canadian unis is that so many kids from my school with c's and d's got into UofT and other place...these same kids were rejected by US unis...at the end of the day an American degree is more valuable than a Canadian one</p>

<p>Do canadian universities, particularly (UoT, UBC and mcgill) give need based financial aid to internationl students?.....&.. how much amount should an international student be willing to pay if he plans to apply to these universities?</p>

<p>Anyone has any slightest of the idea..................?</p>

<p>I would not turn to the US media to determine rankings. Have a look at independent INTERNATIONAL sources that are in the academic world. Canadian schools such as University of Toronto, McGill and University of British Columbia are right up there with top UK and American ones, and much ahead of many that kids on here think are top 20.</p>

<p>World</a> Universities' ranking on the Web: Home</p>

<p>QS</a> Top Universities: THES - QS World University Rankings - top university rankings from around the world</p>

<p>Times</a> Higher Education - Education news, resources and university jobs for the academic world</p>

<p>Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>

<p>these rankings are BS</p>

<p>"Are there any other downsides of a Canadian Education for intls???? "</p>

<p>Canadian universities are reasonable.
However, they simply do not rate world wide.
Most people have heard only vaguely of Toronto and McGill.
Unless you plan to work in Canada, it would be wiser to do a degree from one of the top 10 in the US or the top 4 in the UK (Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial )</p>

<p>Even though I have family in Canada, I did not seriously consider Canada.
Instead, I sent one of my sons to Oxford and the other one will go either to Oxford or an Ivy.</p>

<p>As i know, Waterloo University is very good at CS</p>

<p>I don't wanna end up getting 2.4 GPA after bashing my way through with As in high school. The grade deflation is soo bad that I've seen tons of people get in but I've seen considerably lower ratio of students graduate.</p>

<p>And hussey, if you're talking about merit FA, any amount above 10G will be almost impossible. They normally give around CDN$2000~8000 for students with high junior and senior grades, but paying for Canadian universities is much easier than paying for ones in the States.</p>