<p>Haha, davidass got shot down.</p>
<p>Anyways, what makes Harvard and Yale more ivy? Because the acceptance rate is lower? Because Harvard's pouchy grade inflation isn't seen at Cornell? Heck, Penn is even older than HYP (and all other Universities) as a true University (meaning a secular, liberal arts learning institution). Where is this special threshold? And who cares? If you are going to say you got into the most selective college ever, you are wasting 160,000 dollars.</p>
<p>JohnnyK got this thread down.</p>
<p>Hahahahahahahah davida, you are such a tool hahahahahahahahahahahaha man don't ever change hahahahahahahahahahahahha</p>
<p>crossadmits hate legendofmax</p>
<p>@ davida1 - u must remember that penn has a school called wharton which is better than B.Schools in yale and harvard…
so, think before you say that penn is not harvard or yale…!!</p>
<p>1) dual degree program
2) rapidly improving reputation/prestige, both international and domestic
3) great profs and student body</p>
<p>davida1, </p>
<p>I don’t know what’s wrong with you, but we’ll leave that for a psychologist to analyze. </p>
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<li>You are simply wrong. Penn is just as much of an Ivy as Harvard and Yale. Yale is in a horrible city and Harvard has the snottiest human beings I’ve ever met in my life (not that there aren’t a few a Penn). I probably could have gotten into both of them, and so could the majority of people that got into Penn.</li>
<li>Penn is way better than HYP for many things.</li>
<li>Wharton is the best undergrad business program, end of story.</li>
<li>Grow up and get off our thread.</li>
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<p>This thread is over four years old ;)</p>
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<p>This is true for a lot of kids in Wharton, many of whom turned down Princeton and Yale(fewer turned down Harvard). It’s also true for a lot of the athletes who could have played anywhere, and a few of the all star legacies that couldn’t imagine going anywhere but their dad’s alma mater. But on balance, most kids at Penn(~90%) would not get into Harvard and Yale. A lot of them applied and got rejected. Let’s be real.</p>
<p>^^Do you last three posters realize that you’re attacking posts written four and one-half years ago?</p>
<p>You’d be surprised at how many at Engineering your statement doesn’t apply to. But then again, there are a lot of students that got rejected. But 90%? That’s pushing it a lot.</p>
<p>But anyway, this thread is 4 years old. Things are a little different today.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know how all the thread is, I just don’t want prospective students to think this moron is right. I got into Princeton and Oxford and turned them both down for Wharton.</p>
<p>The post I quoted was from today. And yes, this thread is old, but people much like myself are reading through the whole thing today and considering its points. </p>
<p>Geekorathletic, clearly 90% of Penn students were not rejected from HYP. Less than 50% even applied to HYP because Penn takes half of its class early decision. I was just ballparking the percentage of students at Penn that got in or could have gotten in to HYP(~10% or 1 out of 10). Which is about 250 freshman a year. Half of which got in early decision. Which leaves 125 kids a year who either turned down HYP or neglected to apply to HYP despite being pretty easy admits. Sounds reasonable to me.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, not a lot of people turn down Harvard. They enroll 1500 and have a 70% yield. So about 600 kids a year turn down Harvard. Most of whom attend Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford(huge one for CA’s best), and Oxbridge. Realistically, Penn doesn’t grab very many save for a few huge finance kids who head to Wharton.</p>
<p>even though this thread is 4 years old, let’s pretend that this davida1 guy still exists and posts stuff about penn. I like seeing the opinions and views from people :)</p>