<p>Im an American and I spent my senior years in Canada. Im going to graduate in the top 5% of my class but I didnt do well on my SAT. I scored 1200 because I was arrogant and I bombed the math section. Unfortunetly, it was the last SAT of the year so I had to settle. Anyways, I got rejected everywhere in the states except Boston University. My goal is to transfer to a top 25 school like Tufts, Emory, Wash U, Cornell etc. Can it be done? Do I even have to submit my SAT score. Furthermore, can I retake the SAT. I feel I will do well on the SAT, especially if I study and I will have an advantage because the new SAT has two verbal-oriented sections as opposed to one. Sorry for the length, Id appreciate some insights.</p>
<p>Tufts doesn't even ask for SAT's</p>
<p>I got into Wash U and Emory with a 1060, I think you'll be just fine</p>
<p>It def can be gone...I got into UVA and UNC with a 1150</p>
<p>I got into Brown with a 1270...the same thing happened to me, I was simply too lazy to retake it. Besides, 1200+ is not bad. My score is close enough to a 1300 for it to not really matter.</p>
<p>Actually, I wasn't too lazy. My mom wouldn't let me. Furthermore, retaking it was unrealistic in the face of freshman year, which is chaotic. There are more important things.</p>
<p>You CAN retake the SAT. However, unless you're applying to Yale or Harvard, I wouldn't worry too much. If you have the time and energy, study and go for it again, but you needn't get much above a 1300, I don't think. :/ As long as you're cool, I mean. Because if you're cool, then the schools will totally not notice your SAT.</p>
<p>i am also a canadian student who was rejected everywhere, i don't think SATs matter that much. Although my score is mediocre(1400), it did not make any difference, i believe that Essay is the key, so don't worry about it. I will be heading to a canadian school next year, hopefully with luck, i will be able to transfer, and good luck with you at U boston</p>
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<p>Your score is excellent.</p>
<p>durring my interview at Cornell, i asked how heavily weighted the SAT was, as i was a little worried since i took it 3 times and only scored a 1160 best (1210 if you take my best verbal and math scores). The reply was they certainly know that the SAT is only suppost to be a small prediction of your first semester success in college. A fantastic GPA far far outweighs so so SATs. The most important factor for transfers is grades you've gotten in college. Despite my way-below-Cornell's-standards SATs, i've worked very hard to get a high GPA, and it's evident in my transcript with the sheer number of courses i've taken, and with the great grades i've received in them. I think this was probably the top reason Cornell offered me admission (and i will be attending in the fall!)</p>
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<p>Nearly all colleges take the composite score.</p>
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<p>Why do you say that? At least the schools I've researched (a few of the better ones) will pick the best of each if you have multiple sets of scores simply to give you the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>Usually there's not enough variation to matter much, and it's rare for one score to drop substantially (meaning more than 50 points) across multiple tests. At least that's been the case in the past -- the new writing sample may have more variability.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the College Board strenuously discourages colleges from relying on composite scores, for obvious reasons (for example, is 100 points in verbal skill the same as 100 points in math skill in predicting a student's likelihood of success?), but it's also clear that in many instances they're ignored on that point.</p>
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<p>That is the composite score.</p>
<p>newbyre - what school are you going to attend...im probably not going to go to boston, probably going to go to McGil, Queens, Western...i should decide soon.</p>
<p>So I get the impression that I DONT need to take the SAT again...But Im assuming this is for admission into junior year...how about next year (sophomore year)?</p>
<p>And another problem is that I bombed the math. i scored 660 verbal, 540 Math...I believe that is like 60th percentile</p>
<p>aca0260,</p>
<p>If you are positive that you will score significantly higher, then taking it again will help.</p>
<p>illmaticmindstate, you said; "Tufts doesn't even ask for SAT's", thats a bunch of crap. </p>
<p>Although not mandatory. It clearly asks for candidates to submit standardized testing scores, even on the application. Those who do not submit standardized testing scores will be disadvantaged.</p>
<p>What dude?</p>
<p>I didn't submit my SAT and I was accepted. I guess you've constructed your own interpretation of what "disadvantaged" means.</p>
<p>Look, you said that it does not ask for SAT scores when it clearly does... whether you did or didn't is out of the question... </p>
<p>The website says: (requirements for transfer students)</p>
<p>"We expect that all transfer candidates will submit either the SAT or the ACT. If SAT II scores are available, we would ask that those be forwarded as well. Students who will not be submitting any standardized testing will be considered, however it should be understood that they will be competing with students who have standardized testing as a part of their application."</p>
<p>if that is not "asking", then I do not know what is. I don't think that I have constructed any interpretation; I have simply regurgitated exactly what the website states. It is not my fault if you can't read it properly.</p>
<p>OK, they don't REQUIRE an SAT score. Is that clear enough?</p>
<p>You won't be at a disadvantage which was the original question. I didn't submit my scores, I got in. Thus from my experience I would say that SAT scores do not mean a whole lot. Don't submit anything that might potentially hurt you i.e. don't send them in a score of 1060. If you got a 1450, then yes, I'd submit that because it might be of potential benefit.</p>
<p>You won't be disadvantaged if you don't submit it, end of story.</p>
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<p>I do not know, illmatic. It appears implicit that, with such a warning, students are tacitly consenting to being disadvantaged by not sending their scores; this does not equate to an automatic rejection, just a disadvantage. Though you were admitted, it is not advisable that one should generalize the admissions process because of that sole instance; there are perhaps other instances where students did not send SAT scores and were rejected.</p>
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<p>Definately, but were they rejected BECAUSE they didn't send SAT scores? I doubt it.</p>
<p>I'm saying, why bother sending in any information that could potentially hurt you? The median SAT score at Tufts is in the upper 1300's...so sending in a score significantly lower than that can do nothing but hurt you. On the other hand, if you have a 1500, then yes, I would suggest sending it in, since it might give you some sort of advantage.</p>
<p>What I think they are trying to say is this: if the decision came down between 2 identicle applicants, and one sent in a score of 1330 and the other didn't send in anything, then they'd pick the one with the 1350. But this is a moot point since the rejected applicant chose not to send in his score because it was 1060, so even if he had sent it in, it probally wouldn't have mattered.</p>
<p>If you got a good score, by all means, send it in. But all I'm saying is that it won't pose any benefit to send in a bad score. In other words, the admissions comittee is not going to be impressed simply by the fact that you took the test, that doesn't prove anything.</p>
<p>for any of you who know...i retook my SATs as a freshmen in college bringing the composite up to a 1370 from a 1310...not a significant improvement. I did not really have the time to practice and should'nt have taken them again, but will the fact that I took it after being in college for a year and still didn't fare much better hurt?</p>
<p>Well I believe the Tufts website says, also I called Emory and St. Louis who echoed the same, that once you're in college they don't encourage you to retake the SAT...</p>
<p>The SAT is designed to gauge how well a student might do in college. If you've already been in college for X amount of semesters and proven yourself, than the SAT significantly dimishes in importance. But you've been in college for a year, so the SAT will still matter, not nearly as much as it would have before college, but if you get another 2 good semesters under your belt, coupling that with a 1370, you are in prime position to apply to ALOT of really good schools. If I had that score I'd apply to the Ivy's since there are alot of kids at those schools, even Harvard and Yale who got in the 12-1300 range</p>