<p>i know engineering is at a separate school at duke. but would applying for engineering majors hurt ur chances of getting in at other schools? thanks!!</p>
<p>you're either getting into pratt or not getting in if that's what you apply for..</p>
<p>not sure if i understood the question correctly</p>
<p>if you're asking whether or not its harder to get into Pratt (the engineering school) than Trinity (everything else)...
i have heard that yes, it is harder. however, they are expanding Pratt over the next four years. so i'd say chances are pretty even.</p>
<p>Well ... from what I've heard, Trinity rejects quite a few uninteresting kids that are very high testers, whereas Pratt would accept those kids. In other words, the process at Trinity is a whole lot more random. Has anyone heard anything to that affect?</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>Yeah I heard Pratt is much more numbers based.</p>
<p>Pratt is pretty numbers based, but this dude i know got in with a 1350.</p>
<p>that dude is me, hehe :)</p>
<p>On the Duke admissions site they have the stats on the accepted freshmen class of '08. I saw them awhile ago, and Pratt scores seemed to be higher than Trinity scores. (My friend who was in Pratt at the time made a joke to everyone else in the room that this proves that she's smarter than us). All the Pratt kids that I know are really smart and are very high testers; yes, they all seem to be well rounded academically, but still, they score high when it comes to math and science. I'd want to say that the admissions process in Trinity is a little more holistic, and they take more into account, but I'm really not sure, because all the Pratt kids that I know are smart and wonderful. </p>
<p>As for Pratt being any easier... I do believe that Pratt is the school that we're seeing a greater increase in applications. Also, Duke wants to give Pratt a higher ranking when it comes to engineering programs, so they're working hard to advertise Pratt and grab talented applicants (especially in fields other than BME). To do this (which could be good for prospective applicants to Pratt), Duke is expanding the size of Pratt each year, starting with the class of '09, I think. I've heard they're expanding it by as much as 200 a year, to as little as 50 a year. Regardless, they're building a new dorm on East campus to accomodate this growth. Additionally, if you're a girl, then applying to Pratt won't hurt your chances in the least, it'll probably do the opposite.</p>
<p>Just for a little info, Pratt's acceptance criteria is quite different from Trinity. They take a much more numbers based approach. In fact, (i forget the exact amount) they place much more emphasis on testing, especially science/math. Trinity is different in that while they consider your testing/grades (which of course need to be great), they also put a strong emphasis on your essays and how you are a unique individual.</p>
<p>However, I got deferred from Pratt with a 1500 (780 M) and an 800 on Math IIc ....so even good numbers doesnt guarantee acceptance. I also have great grades in math/science classes....My ECs were my weak point...</p>
<p>^^ That is quite surprising, how were your other SAT II's?, and how was your transcript?</p>
<p>I also should add that Pratt places a lot of weight on the transcript. And to get the top ratings, you need to get top grades in ALL of the toughest classes. So ... lower grades in English and humanities classes can really hurt you, even at Pratt, because so much weight is placed on the transcript as a whole.</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>Go Unweighted 4.0!</p>
<p>If they take a numbers based approach, why was I accepted ED and cubsrule was not.</p>
<p>1350SAT I, 800physics, 780IIC, 710writing, 4.0uw gpa, 5/400rank</p>
<p>I do work for an engineering company locally, <a href="http://www.ditusa.com%5B/url%5D">www.ditusa.com</a></p>
<p>It doesn't mean they only look at numbers, bsbllallstr8, it just means that they emphasize that part a lot more. Your GPA was very good, and working for an engineering company was a very solid EC as well.</p>
<p>According to "Admissions Confidential" by Rachel Toors, the engineering school uses a different process from Trinity. The very formula for academic acceptance is different and there is a panel of engineering profs to oversee any of the apps that go to committee. And they view things differently from adcoms. The Math part of the SAT1 counts more heavily and they really scrutinize the transcript for advanced math science courses. A kid who is taking CAlc BC with straight A's in math is likely to get a "C" in English ignored. Also any engineering, math, science, research ECs are given heavy weight whereas Trinity is looking for a more well balanced group of kids. Lack of leadership or balance is not an issue for engineering kids. Also females do tend to get an edge in engineering programs because they are "URMs" in the field.</p>
<p>I know that, I was trying to get that point across in what I was saying. They arent ALL numbers based, as shown by my acceptance... lol</p>
<p>The part of Admissions Confidential about test scores is somewhat outdated. Duke now requires the SAT I's and 3 SAT II's, which I'm sure count equally.</p>
<p>However, when the transcript is rated, I still doubt that the admissions officers are overlooking general poorer performance in humanities areas. They still do want to admit somewhat well-rounded engineers.</p>
<p>Joey</p>
<p>I'd say that it is about as hard to get into as Trinity. Even looking at the stats, the acceptance rates were about equal. To account for the lower SAT scores, Trinity accepts a more diverse population than Pratt accepts. Usually only the people who really want to study engineering and such apply to Pratt, most everyone else applies to Trinity. That's not to say that Pratt students are smarter than Trinity ones; it just depends on who is compared.</p>