<p>Latino male
3.5 GPA
169 LSAT</p>
<p>Will i be able to get into Stanford, Harvard, Yale?</p>
<p>Unknown. For one thing, not all Latino students receive the same boost; it depends on what exactly your origins are. Second, however, is I think you’re a borderline candidate even if you’re receiving said boost. In fact, my inclination is to think that you’re probably out, but I’m not sure of that.</p>
<p>It’s your freshman year. How do you already know your first semester grades? You’ve already taken the LSATs?</p>
<p>Regardless, neither of your credentials will earn you admission to HYS.</p>
<p>I don’t know why so many people come on this forum with credentials they don’t have, asking for chances. Maybe it’s because we’re on a college admissions forum website? Whatever it is, it’s annoying.</p>
<p>Can I ask my American friends why race plays any factor in admissions?</p>
<p>I find this very wrong.</p>
<p>^Your question is one that has been a continuous matter of national debate for decades and there are numerous lenghty threads on the issue on this site and thousands of articles that can be found googling the issue. As to rule, yes, most law schools (and colleges) can and do take into consideration as one factor for admission that one is from a racial minority and the US Supreme Court has ruled that it may be considered as a factor to acheive diversity of the student body, but each particular state can choose to prohibit considering race in admissions for public (not private) universities or law schools in that state and some, such as California, have.</p>
<p>UKDude, the reason is chiefly that to sit for the bar exam in many states (passage of which being required to practice law), you need to have graduated from an ABA-accredited law school. And the ABA requires affirmative action to ensure a sufficient number of non-white/asian students. I, and many others, agree with you that this is an utterly repulsive practice. But sadly, it is par for the course in American law.</p>
<p>I am from an ethnic minority group, albeit born and raised in a desirable UK location, and would hate to think I got into school A or B just because of my race.</p>
<p>The best guy should get it. Period.</p>
<p>Jesus be a library card and a US history book.</p>
<p>Affirmative action plays a very miniscule role in the admission process. I have worked in an admissions office and can tell you that schools do not admit a student simply because of their race. I know Hispanics and African Americans with near perfect SAT scores who have been rejected from countless schools. Race is taken into consideration, to a certain degree, because unfortunately this country throughout its history has marginalized a sizable group of the population and therefore minorities have not had the same opportunities as their white counterparts. </p>
<p>It is not as black and white as you may think !</p>
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This is true. IIRC, admissions rates for URM students, if you do not control for quality, are still lower at the professional school level than the overall pool.</p>
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This is almost certainly not true. African American students with 2350+ SAT scores do not get rejected by undergraduate colleges absent some kind of major problem with their application.</p>
<p>Blue devil , I went to one of the most diverse schools in NYC and I know someone with a near perfect SATs that did not get into Cornell. The person actually got into other great schools and therefore did not have a flawed application. Just because you are Black and qualified DOES not mean that you get admitted into every single college/university.</p>
<p>That was likely a yield-protection waitlist? I would hardly call it “countless” schools.</p>
<p>You can’t use one instance to make a universal generalization.</p>
<p>I agree that it must have been yield protection.</p>
<p>A school like Cornell will waitlist or even flat out reject an URM with strong credentials because that candidate is most certainly going to be rigorously courted by HYP.</p>
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<p>We’re not talking about college admissions here. We’re discussing professional school admissions. This is a different world. The color of one’s skin is a game breaking factor, especially when there are so few qualified URM applicants.</p>
<p>The person only got into one ivy and ended up going to Johns Hopkins. Please explain why the person got rejected from Harvard ? Was it yield protection ? I believe not. </p>
<p>Since I am a Hispanic male, do you believe then, that I will get into any law school that I desire ? If that is the case then I will stop studying and will not even attempt to prep for the LSAT.</p>
<p>We aren’t talking about URMs in general. You specifically stipulated that we were discussing URMs with near perfect test scores.</p>
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<li><p>Hispanic URM status and African American URM status in Law school applications are two COMPLETELY different things. The African American will get a far larger boost. </p></li>
<li><p>The statement was not “being a URM will get you in”, it was being a “qualified URM” will get you in. No one said it would be easy. I forgot where, but I remember I saw the estimated effect of URM status was:
African American: 10 points
Native American: 5 points
Hispanic: 3 points
(referring to the LSAT). </p></li>
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<p>This doesn’t mean a Hispanic with a 3.0 and 160 can get in to HLS, it means a 3.8 169 Hispanic might get in where a 3.8 171 Caucasian couldn’t.</p>