<p>The current director of admissions at Chicago used to be the director at MIT. Those two offices still have people who talk to one another, so, yes, you will be caught.</p>
<p>but so what if i tell the dean of admissions that i wanna withdraw to apply to other colleges? what happens? u chicago tells everyone else not to accept me cos i agreed to enroll and didn't? everyone makes those admissions ppl sound so vindictive, won't that happen?</p>
<p>No. If you tell the Dean of Admissions that during this gap year, you've changed your mind and no longer want to enroll at Chicago, you're being above-board and honest. The Dean knows that kids change their minds. That's acceptable. They will then release your place and let it be filled by someone else. </p>
<p>What's not acceptable is trying to "game" the system by promising to attend Chicago while still applying elsewhere. That's like accepting a date and then breaking it when "something better" comes along. Not good.</p>
<p>A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.</p>
<p>Yes, you can certainly inform Chicago that you are releasing your spot, and apply all over again to Chicigo and others, including Ivies. That would be the only honest way to do it. But you could end up with no acceptances that way.</p>
<p>Does anyone else believe that this is just a "joke" post to see how others will react. Opening of thread was OP's first post on this site. He puts forward an inquiry that anyone would recognize as unethical. Comes back once in a while to keep the thread going. Claims to have gotten into U of Chicago a year ago, took a gap year, and now is disappointed because U of Chicago is not good enough (possibly he is just looking for people to agree with that), now wants to apply to an ivy (what? he didn't do that last year? Does anyone even know an international that would apply to U of C and not apply to any ivy?), and seemingly does not have enough sense to realize as an international taking a gap year that U of C could figure out who he is if they see this thread.</p>
<p>Northstarmom:</p>
<p>I agree. Chicago probably already knows.</p>
<p>wth? this is my first post because i got in last year without help from this website. i registered cos i just needed to know the chances of getting caught if i reapply.</p>
<p>and why else do you think i took a gap year?!?! i applied for HYP whatever #@#! last year and didn't get in. happy now?</p>
<p>hmm well i won't be as harsh as everyone else. But i have to honestly say that this is Greed in all it's beauty. You have a university that's even willing to hold it's spot (and it's a very competitive university) for you while you defer it and being an international and still being able to do that is very very rare. If the main reason you took a gap year was because you got rejected from the Ivies, then why did you pay the deposit and make a promise to Chicago if you were only interested in getting into Yale and Princeton? I mean surely you have to see that's pretty greedy by telling one university one thing and going behind their backs and doing another thing. I mean what would happen to your whole uni life if you got caught? This is a criminal offense and you've had dozens of people on this thread already tell you that this is wrong even though these people have no idea who you are and i'm sure couldn't care less. Either you forget the Ivies and attend Chicago next fall or you withdraw your acceptance and reapply to the Ivies, and don't apply to Chicago anymore because you already withdrew your acceptance, so I don't think they would reinstate you.</p>
<p>Just remember that Chicago is a dream school to many, and seeing as how you're taking it for granted my advice would be to give up the acceptance and reapply to the Ivies. Cos if you didn't withdraw it, you'd still attend Chicago and not be happy. </p>
<p>Did you ever think of maybe being able to TRANSFER after a year in chicago? or that didn't cross your mind yet?</p>
<p>I wouldn't recommend giving up the spot to apply to other, "better" schools, s ince you already tried getting into the "top" schools and were rejected. Unless you did something absolutely amazing during your gap year, I don't see why you think the results would be any different this year at the same schools. You'd be better off starting school at Chicago, and if you really are unhappy there, trying to transfer out. The other schools might give you a look as a transfer student because a year's worth of excellent grades at a school like Chicago would give them something new to consider in your application.</p>
<p>Seriously, U Chicago is just as good as any ivy league school and better than some. Just go to UC. Why would you want to risk it. Just sounds dumb.</p>
<p>I'm an International College Counselor. I have many students that sound exactly like you when they come to me. They want HYP because it's what they read in US News and those are the schools that their moms want to tell the other moms that their kids are applying to or going to when they meet for brunch at the upscale cafes. I call it high academic airheadedness. You should know that U Chicago is the most renowned university in certain fields. I can give you some advice, but first I need to know your intended major, your country of origin, your school in that country, your GPA and SAT scores. Depending on these factors, you could have a chance at getting into Chicago again (though I doubt it) or transfering to an Ivy. From this post, you seem immature and dishonest, so it baffles me as to how you pulled off a succesful Chicago UN-COMMON application. Did you do the application yourself? My last applicant that got into Chicago also got into some Ivies. Anyway, depending on your intended major, Chicago could be the best university in the field, but I understand that to your mom's airhead moms, and to the cool guys in your classroom that you wish to impress, Harvard sounds better.</p>
<p>I think that the OP gets the point (and, if not, probably won't in the near future). My immediate response in reading this was to suggest transferring after a year; however, you don't even need to do that. Go to U of C (although, I'm not sure U of C will be happy having you if you display similar contempt for their school while there) and then apply as a first year student to your "dream schools." I'm not positive, but I think that you may be able to apply as a first year before your first semester is completed because you need something like a year's worth of credits to be considered a transfer. Voil</p>
<p>If you're enrolled in one college as a freshman, you cannot apply to another college as a freshman even if the year isn't over yet. You're a transfer, because at the time you enter the second college you will have completed one year.</p>
<p>Actually, I wonder what you would achieve even if you apply. Because if you get accepted at another university and attend, the U of Chcago WILL eventually understand that you have breached the agreement. Whether you meet them at court or whether they call at your new college just to have a word with the adcoms, you will end up almost certainly rejected from both. So, I do not think u should risk you place at U of Chicago just for the fun? of seeing whether you can get accepted elsewhere. As long as you keep the contract with UofChicago you CANNOT attend another university, so the whole effort will be pointless.</p>
<p>And just to clarify this... Do you intend to take a gap or have u taken it already? Cause if u have not I suggest u give up the whole plan. U can't imagine how demotivating and useless a gap year is (except if you have sth essentially important to do, of course). So go for U of Chicago, see whether you like it (I am almost sure u will enjoy it as it is good) and if after a year or so you still do not find it interesting enough, just transfer where you wish.</p>
<p>Chedva, can he apply mid-semester (January admission)? At that point, he would still enter without a completed first year. </p>
<p>Gery_sun, I think that a gap year can be demotivating for some, but for others it can give them the time to see clearly. During my gap semester, I realized that my plan to double major in philosophy was the perfect plan for me. It strengthened my motivation, not the other way around. I think that it just depends on the person.</p>
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<p>the problem with this is that none of the ivies have mid year admissions so even if OP applied in January of hs/her freshman year, they would still be applying as a trasfer student.</p>
<p>Op also needs to keep in mind that the post 9/11 world is very small and if you have committed to chicago, they would be responsible for filing your paperwork and visas to study in the U.S. (so it definitely would not be hard to track your paperwork). IF you have changed your mind about studying at U of Chicago, it is in your best interest to just withdrawl.</p>
<p>Sybbie719, you are totally right. I completely forgot that some schools don't have mid-year admissions! </p>
<p>And ditto to the rest of your comment, of course.</p>
<p>1] There is no Jan admission at the colleges he is interested in.
2] The chances of being accepted as a transfer after being rejected last year as a freshman are virtually nil.
3] As a transfer, the chances of acceptance at any top college are far, far less than as a freshman. Take a look at last years results on the Transfer forums- the % of transfer students accepted at top colleges varied from less than 2% [H] to 5%- which is less than the lowest chances for HYP as a freshman. That's because with the exception of Chicago, none hold spots for transfer students. The # of transfer spots open is totally a function of the # of students who LEAVE HYP [ which trust me is not very many] and the # of Freshman who decide to accept their offers of admittance. At many top colleges last year, the Freshman classes were overenrolled- hence there were far fewer spots open for transfers than anticipated. That is expected to happen again this year, in great part because of the baby boomlet.</p>
<p>You should not even be thinking about doing something like this. I hope you realize that integrity is a HUGE deal to universities.</p>
<p>sudokuwinner: you haven't replied in a while. What's going to be your course of action? While unsaid, there are probably readers who are hoping you go forth, and get caught. "he/she deserves it" would be the response. "Another open spot at UC for me/my child."</p>
<p>I hope your posting here wasn't just to find justification to do what you want to do (i.e the unethical, morally incorrect thing to do).</p>