Will I get suspended?

<p>really? What happened. Were they just playing it for a short while, or did any of them lose all their cloths.</p>

<p>it was right before x-mas vacation...my teacher went to hawaii so a sub was there...</p>

<p>the sub is a retired air force officer and is like really nice and stuff. anyways he saw them playing but he didn't really care....</p>

<p>they wasn't really stripping or anything..just earrings, gloves, hats and stuff
(altho one removed her top..still got bra on...and you guessed it..she is the one who got kicked out...)</p>

<p>some stupid snitch told the counselor and the sub was called in along with those who participated in the game. according to others, one of the kids started crying and begged not to be suspended (the sub didn't really say anything so they could have denied it most prob since not many ppl would have testified against them)</p>

<p>long story short, we were supposed to have a hamlet banquet final but as punishment for the entire class we now have to take a test final....the sub didn't get into any trouble but one of the girls was expelled and the 3 others (2 guys and another girl) were suspended for a week and kicked from the english class....</p>

<p>sorry i am like rambling and stuff....</p>

<p>Do it outside of school and you'll be fine. But "emotional poetry"? w t f? lol. Please explain.</p>

<p>Someone published a subterranean at my public school. I think they got in a bit of trouble because you're not allowed to hand out things without approval by the principal or something of that nature.</p>

<p>check out the supreme court case hazelwood vs. kuhlmeir (sp). it talks about the administrative rights when it comes to school newspapers.</p>

<p>doing something "outside of school" for a private school doesn't mean you are not held accountable. At my highschool, all the rules that took place during school hours, with basicly the exception of dress code, were still in place during non school hours. You could be suspended or expelled for doing something on the weekend that a faculty member saw. For example, we were not allowed to use any tobacco products, regardless of whether or not we were 18. It was a suspendable offense. I wouldn't push buttons, its really not worth it.</p>

<p>It depends what state you're in, and the fact that you go to private school and sign away your rights means yes, you can get suspended. Colleges probably won't look at it as a big deal though, if you get suspended and you write a letter to the college explaining the circumstances.</p>

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doing something "outside of school" for a private school doesn't mean you are not held accountable. At my highschool, all the rules that took place during school hours, with basicly the exception of dress code, were still in place during non school hours. You could be suspended or expelled for doing something on the weekend that a faculty member saw. For example, we were not allowed to use any tobacco products, regardless of whether or not we were 18. It was a suspendable offense. I wouldn't push buttons, its really not worth it.

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<p>I go to a private school, and I was almost expelled because of a forum my friends and I had that made fun of the school.</p>

<p>All I can say is DON'T RISK IT. Wait until college, where people are more open minded.</p>

<p>You could always start an anonymous website, that you could show to your friends and say some one else told you about it or you found it on Google. Just make sure they can't trace your IP address easily. Anyways, that would be hot.</p>

<p>To the OP, go for it, you'll have lots of back if you state your arguement intellectually and you do this underground newspaper the right way. There is a good chance you will get suspended, but trust me you can take this as far as you want, I am personally sick and tired of private schools and the sheltering private school students have in general, they all seem like a bunch of robots coming out of high school with absolutely no real life mentatlity. Plus you can explain all of this to colleges if your high school decides to tell your college you were suspended, I would suggest talking to the college on the phone or in person if it comes to that point. But bro, democracy is about your rights, and your school (and most private schools) seems more like a communist prison..</p>

<p>Furthermore, you ARE a senior, you are an upperclassman, and if this is something you want to use to make a point and give yourself a reputation for fighting for your rights, then it's absolutely perfect.</p>

<p>oh yea and one more thing..i'm proud of you bro, not to say i am some adult appraiser, but it's pretty freakin cool there are students who get what's going around in our country nowadayss, and that actually care.</p>

<p>Freedom of press at private schools (for official school newspapers):</p>

<p><a href="http://www.splc.org/legalresearch.asp?id=52%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.splc.org/legalresearch.asp?id=52&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Can you say law suit? (Although the first amendment is not quite as defendable, if the principal suspends you on ridiculous grounds, threaten to sue for pain and damages. I'm sure your principal will have a second thought about taking action against you)</p>

<p>If you start printing Libel, however, there is nothing you can do. Freedom of Speech only goes so far.</p>

<p>^Exactly..libel is quite different from expressing your opinion intilligently, persuasively, and logically (with of course facts). I also agree with sanguine's lawsuit assertion, you can go as far as you want with this bro, I for one am totally with you (the OP).</p>

<p>There is nothing libelous in the paper. Anything we say has come directly from sources who deal with the people involved, and we never refer to any individual by name. The closest we get to that is "the administration." That does refer to three specific people though, could that be a problem?</p>

<p>If your administration has been as active in censoring as you say they have, I would expect that a suspension is likely. Go forward with the knowledge of these repurcussions if the risk is worth it to you. It may be. Most of the people who have changed the world have done so knowing full well that they might be arrested, persecuted, threatened, etc. If this is a cause worth the possible consequences, go for it, but know that this is likely to cause quite a stir.<br>
Does your high school have a policy and rule book for students? Read it carefully and see what kinds of actions cause what consequences. If you go forward, know the rules well so you can defend your case.
Private schools can suspend kids for just about anything they feel is disruptive to student life. You can imagine that just about anything can fall under that catagory.
One more thing - have you and your friends considered addressing some of these issues within the boundaries of what is acceptable the the administration? Have you talked with them, and explained your concerns and why you feel their actions are unfair? I guess I would suggest taking this approach. It may not change things immediately, but it could get them thinking, and pave the way for future classes. Sometimes the conflict approach only makes people defend and dig in.</p>

<p>They did a student-run underground at my school for a year.</p>

<p>It had the support of the staff actually, who thought it was a really good thing, and the principal joked about it in assembly once (even though he was critisized in it at times,) although he doesn't seem nearly as strict as yours. The school would buzz when the newest editions popped up randomly around school.
The key was they kept the authors anonymous, using submission to a random anonymous e-mail account, also keeping the editors anonymous.
I hope you didnt tell alot of people you're going to do it; word spreads like wildfire in private schools as I'm sure you know.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>If you go through with it and get suspended, try writing to local papers and try to make the school look bad. I saw a funny MTV special on this.</p>

<p>You can get suspended because it is a private school. If you feel passionate about it though, so be it. It may even be a hook for schools like Wesleyan, etc.</p>

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Does your high school have a policy and rule book for students?

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I specifically went and read the student handbook, and the only mention it ever gives of suspension is in the case of plagiarism. I know there is Contract Law that could possibly help me - is it possible to argue that if its not in the handbook, its not allowable?

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One more thing - have you and your friends considered addressing some of these issues within the boundaries of what is acceptable the the administration? Have you talked with them, and explained your concerns and why you feel their actions are unfair?

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Trust me, the administration is fully aware how we feel about these things, as I and other editors have gone up against her countless times over the seemingly littlest things. I don't believe this course of action will have any repercussions whatsoever.</p>

<p>Wow I'm not the only one who thinks to do something like this! I was in the same boat as you at my private school when they started censoring our school newspaper, and per a Supreme Court ruling there's nothing you can do about it (this applies to public schools as well). So I started an underground paper as a webzine and it was ten times more fun than the school paper ever was. I still maintain it actually, but there's no more muckraking as I've no need for that. :)
Here's how I did it if you're interested: I registered a new email address and after a bit of soul-searching I put my own name on it (being secretive is VERY difficult as you wouldn't be able to even tell your friends about it and to me wasn't worth the hassle). The first few issues were nice and sorta light-hearted; there was an editorial about censorship in general but on the national level so no one thought it was directed at the school. I also added my favorite teachers to the email list as they quite liked my quality of writing etc and would doubtlessly be allies in case something happened... so yeah, after that initial success whenever something stupid happened there was an editorial about it. Eventually it got to the point where I even pointed out a silly school policy (the school was planning on not doing anything about alcohol at Homecoming despite widespread drunkenness the previous year), and then they called a school meeting announcing the changes in what they were going to do. I think for most of that time the head of school was speaking to ME, not the school, but I just held the eye contact in the most calm manner I could muster. As long as she changed her mind I had no qualms about her not saying why.
Ah, memories... ok yes, at this point I should point out I was lucky in the sense that I don't think my administration was as bad as yours. But I hope this will help you in your quest, and best of luck to you!</p>

<p>Yes, you were lucky. I highly doubt my administration will feel that way.</p>