<p>Yale is my school of dreams since I was in kindergarten. And I have been trying really hard at school in order to be there one day. I am going to mention my credentials below : </p>
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<li>High School Junior (Grade 11)</li>
<li>Grade 9 - 82% Grade 10 - 80% Grade 11 - 72 %</li>
<li>My SAT Score - First attempt - 1600 Second Attempt 1600</li>
<li>I have a book published. </li>
<li>Alumni of Harvard Summer School with 8 college credits</li>
<li>International Dancer and have performed in most of the Europe, Asia and SA. </li>
<li>Have performed a gajillion shows in Ballet like Berklee College of Music and other places</li>
<li>Been honoured by various diplomats for my dance </li>
<li>Interned with the director of Institute of Cultural Diplomacy in Berlin</li>
<li>Attended the conference of Cultural Diplomacy Art and Music Festival. </li>
<li>Been the editor of school magazine in school for 2 years. </li>
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<p>(These are just excerpts. I mentioned the VERY important ones)</p>
<p>As you can see that I am totally dependent on my ECs- I need to know that if anything can happen for me at Yale ? Do I even have a slightest chance ? I still have another year but the only strong points in my application is the dedication for one passion that is Dance. And my college essay. My college essay is spectacular. Please mention if anything else I need to do or something I need to work harder. Go ahead be blunt. I just need to know if Yale is in my hands or not. </p>
<p>Your grades average to 78%. To me, that looks like a C+ in the US 4.0GPA scale. Your 1600SAT – is that 1600 out of 2400?</p>
<p>Since you said the only strong point of your application is dance, I would assume that the 78% is indeed, less than great, and 1600 is out of 2400, and it seems you’re not a US citizen. Given this and that you aren’t a singularly world renown dancer, then I would say you have no chance at a school like Yale whose first determinant will be your grades/transcript. Also international admits possess +2000 SAT in general. </p>
<p>Being “totally dependent on ECs”, in your case, won’t work unfortunately. You should immediately expand your list of target school. Colleges with under 15% admit rate should probably not populate them. Yale will admit ~7% of applicants this year and next. Yale is not in your reach whatsoever.</p>
<p>On a more practical basis: you should look at colleges’ “Common Data Sets” which outline the typically admitted students’ GPA and test score ranges. You’ll find out that a 78% grade will rule you out of many, many US colleges – much less Yale.</p>
<p>I disagree - it will all depend on how good she is in dance. We dont know if she is world famous or not since we dont know who she is, and quite possible dont know ANY world famous up and comers of HS age.
If her talent is truly huge, say on a top football recruit level, I dont see why Yale wouldnt take her.<br>
So what you need op, is a thoroughly honest self assessment as to your dance talents., Or else second party assessment.</p>
<p>Well, I said if she has shown she is already a singularly renown dancer of her age, then she might be considered. But from her description, it doesn’t seem so. If she were the lead for the New York City Ballet or something along those lines, YES. But otherwise, a 78% is hard to overlook…</p>
<p>And even a top dancer with subpar grades would not equate with a FB recruit where set guidelines exists for athletes.</p>
<p>and a FB recruit with a C+ average and a 1600SAT would be bypassed by Yale.</p>
<p>IMO it’s impossible to tell. The OP is one of those applicants where it could honestly go either way - will they care more about the OP’s GPA, or about his/her accomplishments in dance, which are more impressive than having a 4.0 (this is not to say that the OP is more impressive than someone with a 4.0 and tons of similar accomplishments)? It’s definitely not right to say that schools like Yale are “not within your reach whatsoever.” It’s also not right to say that the OP has a strong chance. In the end this is close enough that the best anyone can say is 50-50.</p>
<p>Also, IIRC, a 78% does not mean a C+ average. International students’ % averages are funny compared to US grades, and as far as I’ve seen, things like an 89% average are actually comparable to the top GPAs from the US.</p>
<p>What? When Yale’s admit rate is less than 8%?</p>
<p>I am inclined to agree with T26E4. Even if 78% means something very different in shewolf8’s school from what it means in most of the U.S., a 1600/2400 SAT is highly problematic at Yale–for a domestic applicant or an international one. (I assume it must be 1600/2400. If you had 1600/1600, why on earth would you take it twice?)</p>
<p>And while being a world-class whatever-it-is-that-you-do is a huge boost at Yale, it isn’t enough to get you admission by itself. Yale isn’t going to admit a student who doesn’t have the academic chops for Yale. Chelsea Clinton didn’t get into Stanford because she was a Clinton; she got into Stanford because she was a Clinton with strong standardized test scores and good grades from Sidwell Friends School. And Jeremy Lin got into Harvard because he could play basketball and he had a GPA over 4.0 at Palo Alto High School.</p>
<p>(I’m also inclined to believe that being a top football player would have more oomph at Yale than being a top dancer. How long has it been since Yale won The Game? )</p>
<p>With respect to all your view and comments, I also did mention that my book releases like in 4 months. Also, I still have a year to show improvement, you know ? I am trying hard. After all stagnation is what they dont wanna see. They want to see improvement + coping up with a gajillion ECs as well, right ? That what I was told at Harvard Summer School.</p>
<p>No, you will not get into Yale. You sound like a hardworking person who will have many options in life but, you simply don’t have what Yale targets now.</p>
<p>If you have a book about to be published by a serious, non self publisher, you my have a shot next year if it’s a success and you can raise your scores to minimum 2000.</p>
<p>Yes. It’s not a self-publishing site. I am not going to waste my money to get a book published. I believe in meritorious deeds. What else could be my options though ? Could I target any other IVYs ? I would be applying Early to Yale, though.</p>
<p>you’ve asked for bluntlness. You’ve gotten it. Maybe you weren’t so ready for the blunt answers. Well, I suspect you’ll do what you will regardless. But asking for confirmatory replies for your Yale candidacy will be a wasted venture in the future. Apply wherever you wish. It’s your prerogative.</p>
<p>Best of luck on the book and your future admissions process.</p>
I’m afraid somebody has given you bad information. What they want to see at Yale–and all the other Ivies, and the other highly selective colleges in this country–is that you are exceedingly well qualified academically. After that, your extracurricular accomplishments, your personal story, etc., come in to play–to help these institutions decide which few they’ll choose from among the applicants who are highly qualified academically.</p>
<p>No, no ivy or close is in reach. Early matters little at top schools, but even if it did, having an SAT score more than 600 points below average would not bode well!</p>
<p>Who is publishing your book? What is the subject?</p>
<p>The first hurdle you must clear in acceptance to any college is to establish that you have the ability to do the academic work required at the institution. </p>
<p>Every year, the most selective colleges do admit a handful of applicants whose “numbers” are much lower than one would typically believe to be required. </p>
<p>In these cases, the application contains some information that leads the committee to decide that the applicant’s likelihood of academic success at the institution is not accurately reflected in the traditional metrics such as high school grades and standardized tests. </p>
<p>Of course, these applicants also present some other credentials that motivate the committee to look beyond those traditional metrics. You might be one, but you haven’t given us enough information to agree that it’s likely.</p>
<p>Good luck to you. I would advise you to cast a wide net.</p>
<p>Take a look at Yale’s Common Data set.
[Common</a> Data Set (CDS) | Office of Institutional Research](<a href=“http://oir.yale.edu/common-data-set]Common”>Common Data Set | Office of Institutional Research)
Rigor of course work, GPA, Standardized test scores, talent, etc… are considered very important. What you have is talent, but it’s one of the eight factors.
The 25th SAT score is 700+ for each subsection for 89% of applicants.
There is about 3-2% of applicants accepted with score in the 1600.</p>
<p>First, stagnation at 4.0 is much better than an improving trend. If one has low grades, then yes, improvement is better than stagnation. However, your grades have stagnated, or decreased. Even if you turn it around senior year, an “improving trend” starts low freshman year–or has one year of dip as a sophomore–and then gets at least a 95% average both junior and senior year, of which junior is much the more important.</p>
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