Since you are asking my opinion, I think there has not been a lot of uplifting of the people in poor communities. It is if there are 2 different Baltimores. The poor suffer from your standard ills of poverty- lack of employment, food deserts, education that is not working, addictions, etc- I am sure you have seen some of the statistics of people who live in Roland Park in comparison to those in Sandtown-Winchester. Those are telling statistics. So with this uprising there are a lot more voices being heard and attention given to these issues. As if the status quo has been given a much needed jolt. I see different communities coming together a bit and the more relationships that can be built the better off everyone will be.
I am not sure what the prosecutor is seeking- hopefully justice. I can conjecture that she gave the police officers many charges to make a strong statement against police violence and perhaps it will ultimately be negotiated in a way where both can meet. The police have a difficult job and walk a fine line, so we can see where the balance comes down once the case is adjudicated. They certainly can be trained to react more effectively and thereby improve safety. Commissioner Batts also spoke about adding Boys and Girls clubs and having police be more active in positive ways in the community.
" I can conjecture that she gave the police officers many charges to make a strong statement against police violence" that is against the law , hence one of the reasons the charges will probably be dropped and a possible disbarment.
you can not charge someone to make a statement or try to make something stick. (the irony that she charged some police with false arrest) and I am not sure but like mike nifong the prosecutor in the duke lacrosse hoax, when this all pans out she may possibly face jail time herself. (nifong only went to jail for about 24 hours sadly)
@madamecrabster
Thanks for the response.
Justice by its definition is non-partisan, as a result everyone is entitle to a fair trial. Watching the news and interviews with those protesting, there seems to be a skewed view of what justice is. Most of these individuals want to see the cops convicted of murder “regardless” of whatever evidence to the contrary is presented. I hope Mosby doesn’t fall into this camp, but believes there’s a genuine case.
The police-community outreach sounds like good news. But I don’t think it will bring the change you seek. This will have an effect on the cops and those in the community willing to participate-Not the criminal element so ubiquitous to these areas. I believe anyone who makes a living through nefarious activities, will always have disdain for the law. So how do we turn these individuals aways from crime? That’s the million dollar question because as we all know, throwing money at the problem has done little to help.
can you stop commenting on stuff you know nothing about? be it frat culture, judicial laws, future of a city? you’re right about one thing - you’re definitely unsure about a lot of things. She will only face jail if the evidence bears contradicting info and someone cars enough to prove she exhibited professional ignorance of evidence, something you have no visibility into.
your astoundingly dumb comparisons with baltimore to flint or detroit is laughable. baltimore, unlike the destitute cities you try to predict is in its future, has a thriving tourist scene (non-existent at detroit or flint??!?), diversified financial institutions including investment banks and wealth management entities, and just as importantly an elite very rich university as a fundamental citizen. That is why similar but less desirable cities with Yale, Duke, Penn continue to thrive to this day despite civil unrests.
Terrible comparisons and analysis from zobroward per usual.
The riots happened on one day I can’t stop laughing
She only needs probable cause to charge. Comments about disbarment are just silly.
Returning to the question asked by OP, I doubt that there will be many.
JHU should have no trouble meeting their yield this year. I think most colleges and universities that have had negative press on issues regarding student safety–including MIT, UC Santa Barbara, Wesleyan, Hobart & William Smith, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, UVA, U of Oklahoma, etc.–will have no problem continuing to attract very large numbers of qualified students.
And add WUSTL to that list, too…
Glad the thread went back to the original question. I agree that Hopkins will pull through just fine and I am rooting for Baltimore. I agree that these recent serious problems in Baltimore exist around the country. Institutions of higher education are located in real places after all. The bubble, even when it exists for students, is permeable and is not a shield.
The most recently available official admissions yield (36%) (from IPEDS: https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/datacenter/) for Hopkins is from the class starting in Fall 2013, so we won’t have official numbers regarding the impact on yield for this coming class until over a year from now – although we might be able to get some idea from preliminary numbers. In general, yield at JHU has been improving:
2006-07 – 32
2007-08 – 30
2008-09 – 30
2009-10 – 31
2010-11 – 32
2011-12 – 35
2012-13 – 35
2013-14 – 36*
My guess is that the riots, etc. in Baltimore will have a significant impact, especially since they occurred right when students were making their final enrollment decisions. If I had to hazard a guess, I’d set the over-under for the class of 2019 at perhaps 27%. Time will tell.
*[size=2]Note that Hopkins itself reports a 37.4% yield for 2013-2014 in its Common Data Set (from http://web.jhu.edu/registrar/reports/Reports_2013_2014/CDS_2013-2014_10-9-214_guidebooks.pdf)[/size=2]
https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/college-university-search/johns-hopkins-university
Note that Hopkins has a 39.4% yield for the most recent admissions cycle. Things are definitely trending up.
Overall yield at 27%? I have preliminary numbers as a connected alum; you’re off by quite a bit (and that’s being generous)
Yeah – I might have been overly pessimistic for this incoming class @Blah2009, especially if the yield for the class of 2018 is improved to 39% (I have my doubts about that as far as official numbers go). But I’d still be surprised if the yield didn’t take a significant hit (in the range of 5 to 10 percentage points) due to the events in Baltimore.
^the only numbers that should be trusted are those from the common data set. Also, be prepared to be surprised based on the early yield numbers (again, something some people are privy too already - although I’m not surprised). Unless the prelim numbers are way off - there are been no major alerts to the school for deposit withdraws, I would expect this to be constant.
Riots induced by an outside event are a bit different than random acts of violence without a catalyst event.
What were Virginia Tech’s numbers the year following the shooting?
Few, in any, Hopkins’students have ever been or will ever go near the area of the violence. The students were never in any danger. Anyone who knows anything about Baltimore knows this. I’d be surprised if there is much of an impact.
You appear to be correct @cartera45, per this map: [size=2]http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bal-map-mondays-violence-20150427-htmlstory.html[/size=2]. Most violence was southwest of the university (although if you zoom out a bit on the map, you’ll see that there were episodes to the northeast as well). Still, the potential impact on yield is more about perception. The reality is that most potential enrollees don’t know anything about Baltimore.
The CDS is good, but I think the IPEDS data are even more reliable – those data reflect what the school officially reports to the Government.
there’s nothing to suggest IPEDs is more accurate than CDS.