Will the college your kid selects be there next year? The year after?

<p>It’s a lot easier to have a kid at a school within an hour of a major airport if you are not within a comfortable driving distance from home. My older ones were both about 7 hours away by car, but because they were were within a half hour from major airports, finding plentiful and cheap fares was easy. </p>

<p>I got round trip tickets for S2’s graduation for $115, round trip!! Since my oldest is also there with a car, we can fly there directly for very little time and money, also making it possible for wheelchair bound grandmom who needs a bathroom every hour or so to come to the graduation. Contrast that with S2 who is 90 miles from a major airport so we cannot get a direct flight to him. It takes us about 8 hours door to door using a plane to get to him, and that’s without delays. Also the cost of the flights are much higher. </p>

<p>Also S1 and S2 could take a bus to the airport or a cheap taxi. Not so for S3. It does make a difference. </p>

<p>When friends of ours were notified that their son was in the hospital from a car accident, they left immediately and were by his bedside in less than 4 hours in the wee hours of the night. Had we gotten the same phone call, we could not hope to be with our son for about 10-12 hours.</p>

<p>^^ speedo,
Read what it says: “the endowment provides 3% of its operating budget compared with 25% at Wooster.” That means the payout from endowment—probably about 5% of endowment assets—produces enough money to fund 25% of Wooster’s overall operating budget. It most assuredly does NOT mean that Wooster is spending 25% of its endowment assets annually; that would be insane as it would leave the college dead broke in just a few years.</p>

<p>Now certainly, if the endowment payout accounts for 25% of Wooster’s operating budget, and endowment assets are down 30%, that’s going to but a big dent in Wooster’s operating budget. But it’s not quite the 7.5% hit you’d get if you just did a straightforward mathematical calculation (30% of 25% = 7.5%). That’s so for a couple of reasons. First, the payout is calculated on the basis of a multi-year moving average of endowment assets; so this year’s payout will be somewhere around 5% (more or less) of the average endowment assets over the last 3 years (or 5, or 7, or whatever the college uses for its average). That multi-year average figure will surely be higher than the present asset value after the recent sharp market downturn. Since market values were very high in the first two of those three years, we’re talking about maybe a 4% or 5% hit to the overall operating budget for the coming year—though they need to be careful going forward because unless the markets recover strongly and quickly, next year’s multi-year average endowment value will be lower, as it will have two down years figured into the average.</p>

<p>But colleges also usually have some maneuvering room to further mitigate the impact. I use the figure of a 5% payout, but some colleges are a little below that, some a little above. Either way, they do have discretion to make adjustments, either by changing the payout rate, or by changing the multi-year average on which they calculate the payout. You don’t want to make these kinds of changes precipitously or often, because you don’t want to get into the habet of breaking into the piggybank every time you want cash. But if need be, they can tweak these numbers to take a slightly larger payout.</p>

<p>Colleges can generally deal with a 5% hit to their operating budget by deferring big capital projects, deferring hiring, deferring maintenance, and so on. So I don’t think a school like Wooster is in big trouble. And colleges are generally better off if they have diverse revenue streams—tuition and endowment is better than tuition alone; tuition and a large research capacity that produces lots of outside research grants, plus tuition, plus endowment is even better. That’s why I say the colleges that are most vulnerable are those that are exclusively or almost exclusively reliant on tuition, because even a few empty chairs can wreak havoc on their budgets, as can a heavier-then-usual demand for financial aid, because with only a single revenue sources, their only choices will be to leave financial need unmet (and risk losing students), raise the sticker price to produce additional revenue to support FA for those that need it (and again risk losing students, this time the most financially able), or make significant cuts elsewhere in what are already generally lean budgets, because these are schools that are trying to provide on tuition alone what their better-endowed competitors provide on tuition plus substantial endowment payouts. It’s not a happy time to be a college administrator, but the worst job of all has to be at these totally tuition-funded schools.</p>

<p>Understand your point but time will tell when we look at those
enrollment figures over the next few years. If the current economic
downturn persists I do think we’ll see some smaller and perhaps fairly
well known colleges making radical changes or going out of business.</p>

<p>If the students don’t come, even for one year, the bottom can
drop out whether you’re tuition driven or endownment dependent.
Once the public loses confindence - you’re done. The key is
maintaining enrollment.</p>

<p>The ground is already starting to shift. Waldorf College was sold to a for-profit, on-line University, Columbia Southern, and . . . </p>

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<p>[News:</a> The Sale of Waldorf - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/05/06/waldorf]News:”>http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/05/06/waldorf)</p>

<p>I’m a student at Waldorf College. Tough times are here, and any student going into college defintely needs to ask the question, especially with the recession, “Will my college still be here in two, three, four years?” - this question is vital to ask if you are attending a small, private, LAC like Waldorf with an enrollment of less than 1,000 students. When I came to Waldorf in the fall of 2008, there was no inkling whatsoever that these changes were going to occur, and now, one full academic year later, they are. </p>

<p>I’m staying at Waldorf, however, as I have too much invested in this school. We’ll make it through these rough times. Just be optimistic and hopeful if your school is going through the same thing.</p>

<p>great article</p>

<p>I’m watching the Daniel Webster story as our son took a course there when he was 15. They’ve cleared two state approvals so it appears that the buyout is going smoothly. At this point I wouldn’t recommend the school to anyone that asked me about it unless the student was very interested in aviation.</p>

<p>I’m watching Daniel Webster too. They are well on their way to ABET certification of their Mechanical and Aero engineering degrees - really exciting programs based (bootlegged straight) from MIT-AERO’s CDIO model. They are doing all the right things - but the ITT name - Ouch!. Rowan and Olin built thier new Hot Shot engineering programs on massive private donations. Daniel Webster has been creating the same engineering program, but on a shoe string - Is ITT thier “Frank Olin” or thier death nell for serious engineering.</p>

<p>So where might one find the analysis that was referred to in the article. It said it analyzed over 600 schools. Would be nice to see that and the criteria (or lack thereof) before jumping on the panic bandwagon.</p>

<p>I just went through DWC’s latest catalog and things have improved from the last time I went through it but what struck me then and now was how little they offer in the way of math courses. Our interests lie in Computer Science and associated fields and the DWC degree is a little light on math, science and theory courses and more focused on technical skills Maybe that will fit in well with ITT.</p>

<p>I also tried to get some information on how ITT is doing but it appears to be a division of a larger private company so I couldn’t get financial records. The thing about a company is that they could close down a division if it wasn’t performing or if the company had a cash crunch. As part of a private company, it might be very difficult to find out how DWC is doing and if they were in trouble.</p>

<p>BTW, the campus is nice and it’s in a very safe area. There’s a small campus feel to the place but there is shopping and recreation nearby and Boston is an hour away. There isn’t much competition locally (Rivier, Hesser, Nashua Community College) and they provide a large scholarship for NH residents. I wish that there was a UNH in Nashua.</p>

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I’m not familiar with a Bradley College, but Bradley University in Illinois is not in danger to my knowledge.</p>