<p>College</a> Acceptance Rate Drops by 2.7% | The Emory Wheel</p>
<p>Who knows, who truly cares. Stop worrying so much about it. It hardly matters if another school outperformed us in this area. Also, this data would not influence the upcoming ranking, but it influences the one afterwards.</p>
<p>Also, I don’t want the admit rate dropping like Vandy’s where they have seen less improvement in freshmen class than their admit rate would indicate. When we do accept less, it needs to be of substance, not a mere way to game rankings. That obviously hasn’t worked for schools like Vandy who still have the same rank despite the ever dropping admit rate. Emory needs to actually “enroll/matriculate” the good students regardless of how many it actually admits. Places like UChicago for example have relatively high admit rates(I think they are still in the 20s or close to 20), but they have great applicant pools and yield some really motivated students that want to contribute to its vibrant intellectual/scholarly community. They admit truly unique students that want a unique, quality education that highly specializes in UG teaching while being a research university. This is also Emory’s goal(In fact the previous Emory president actually based his decision to turn Emory into a research U based upon how Chicago works. He probably wouldn’t care for what he sees here today at the undergrad. level) essentially and it needs to admit students that want to truly get on board with that idea. Honestly, even schools like say Georgia Tech with a 45+ admit rate, admit solid students (their SATs in M/V are pretty close to ours).</p>
<p>Basically, this admit rate or USNW rank can be very superficial if the school is not doing anything unique in its admissions that builds a community that is different from those at other schools. Even if the rank shifts up b/c of petty stuff like this, it doesn’t mean we’re actually doing anything great in terms of the aforementioned. However, the quasi-rebound in apps. is kind of good (still not back at 2008 levels). Hopefully, we can eventually work on getting a more “interesting” student body that differs from the pre-prof. dominated one we have now. Mix it up a little. So perhaps try to attract students that Emory can help do something different.</p>
<p>^ haha, what bernie said :D</p>
<p>you should also consider the fact that more people applied this year = lower acceptance rate. They don’t have enough space for everybody.</p>
<p>Emory has never fallen out of the top 20 for the past 15 years or something. I doubt its going to happen now. And if it does, who is going to overtake us? UC Berkely? I don’t think so, we have an average sat score that is 70 points higher than UCB. Sat scores makeup a huge part of the ranking formula.</p>
<p>I think GeorgeTown (can’t spell, and don’t care) would be the wildcard.</p>
<p>^ I agree. I can see either Georgetown or USC coming into the top 20.</p>
<p>this is all based on the US news and world report rankings right?</p>
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<p>Emory’s 2011 acceptance rate is 25-26%. Georgetown’s is 18.1%; USC’s is around 20%. Also, remember, that neither Georgetown nor USC accept the Common App – thus, no-one just whips in an application, just for grins, as they might with Emory and Columbia. Imagine asking teachers to fill out real forms and actually put stuff in the mail! If Columbia’s experience serves as any guide (apps up 30% when it came on to the Common App this year), if either Georgetown or USC went to the Common App, then their acceptance rates would plummet by a third, to 12% and 14% or so – clearly putting them within credible striking distance of the Common App Ivies, Penn ( 12.5%) and Cornell (18%) and Duke (12.5%). I think USNWR may soon take acceptance rates on and off the Common App as a kind of modification in its ranking structure and try and “normalize” these figures for the non Common App schools (MIT is another such non Common App school, and its 9% acceptance rates would probably go to the 6% rates of Harvard if it went on to the Common App).</p>
<p>Oh, I don’t mean anything about admit rates. Perhaps their reputation score will kill us, or something else happens that cause them to have a higher score this time. I mean GTown always had a lower admit rate than us (like many schools below us in USNWR) and higher SATs(they may suffer b/c of endowment or research or something), so I have to wonder how much that matters anyway. I think Emory may still have higher SATs than places like Berkeley and USC (though maybe not too much for USC, if any. Again, I said maybe), so the admit rates are a sketch measure of selectivity. Again, it depends on who is applying. If you can admit 20-30% and still have solid students w/good stats, that says a lot about the pool of applicants.</p>
<p>I doubt GTown or USC has higher Sat scores or incoming gpas than us, which is another factor in the rankings system. We will also have more money for research than either school, which is another crucial factor in the rankings system.</p>
<p>I think I read yesterday that USC IS switching to the Common App.
I also wonder if they will simplify their weird app process.
Please correct if I am wrong!</p>
<p>We do not have the info on the avg SAT scores yet, but any theories about Emory’s acc rate this year?</p>
<p>Emory’s Law school dropped from 22 to 30 this past year.</p>
<p>I don’t think Emory will drop out of the top 20, but if it does, who cares? It’s still one of my top schools.</p>
<p>Yeah, but that’s the law school. That has nothing to do with undergrad. And also, that drop was b/c they changed methodology as normal so that the status quo is even more reinforced. Basically, so that it really shows how schools of the top “X” range were disfavored by recruiters in the economic downturn. Lots of schools got screwed this time because of that, especially up and comers in grad. depts and prof. schools like Emory (the development of grad. schools at Emory was relatively secondary to UG and they mainly strengthened upon us becoming a research U). Everything about lawfirm recruitment is kind of elitist. The rankings reflect that. Emory couldn’t really save itself. If several firms/recruiters said “we will not recruit outside of the top 15”, then we were screwed from the get go. Basically, in a bad economy, our previous rank screwed us. How surprising. It’s not like the law school suddenly went to the sh**ter in terms of teaching, faculty, and student quality. When a publication/ranking system creates a methodology that allows several schools to drop more than 5 spots, then it’s sketch, period. Notice how the change in UG methodology only caused us to drop 3 and mainly because of the ties and stuff.</p>
<p>Jesus Christ, why do you all care?</p>
<p>You’re going to get just as good of an education at Emory or USC or Tufts or Brown or Georgetown or UCLA or UChicago. The emphasis will be slightly different depending on the culture of the school, but don’t kid yourself into thinking that 3% difference in selectivity or yield or SAT scores will change the quality of the university dramatically. What will be vastly different is the atmosphere of each school. And that’s something that US News and World Report will never be able to quantify.</p>
<p>Actually, the only thing that would get a student into law school is maybe some internships and, a high GPA, and a high LSAT. All of those schools can help with the first part, the latter two are up to the student.</p>