Will you buy an electric or hybrid car next?

One of which is very likely to extract as much money from consumers as possible. That’s why we didn’t go with the Tesla wall charger, as we’re not sure if we will get another Tesla again since other manufacturers are making so much progress.

For all the complaints about the EU, they definitely made the right move with requiring a single standard charger for portable devices, IMO:

Long-awaited common charger for mobile devices will be a reality in 2024 | News | European Parliament.

No reason it can’t be done here in the USA, either with portable devices or car charging. These are pretty basic things these days.

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Sorry, my bad. I meant for the Tesla that it’s in the rear driver’s side. I have it inverted.

I’ll make the change in my post.

Thanks.

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Personally disagree. What they have locked in by law is old technology, and puts the kibosh on a much research for USB-xx.

Just like they have locked in a clunky EV charge connector. (yeah, certainly better than Chademo, but not as elegant at Tesla’s. And by legislating CCS, they are hindering research on bigger, better & faster.)

West Virginia is really hard to charge in, but there’s decent coverage in 90% of the country. The only times we have had a problem were when we didn’t check the status of the chargers we were planning on stopping at before starting out.

Interesting development for Tesla:

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No real surprise, IMO. The SW engineering team has always been in the BA. And the nearby small Fremont factory is perfect for testing out new ideas on a limited scale. Once another US plant is developed, I would speculate that Fremont limits its production to the S & X (and Roadster?), and the third line become R&D to test new manufacturing processes.

CA has a lot of tech talent, but it’s a poor choice for Customer Support, manufacturing (and corporate HQ).

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Huh, I guess we’re not woke enough. We need to increase our woke intensity. :rofl:

That’s some nice real estate there. Pass by it a lot.

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According to the article posted above, the Fremont, CA manufacturing plant is the highest-producing Tesla plant in North America:

Musk said during the live-streamed event that the Fremont Factory was North America’s most productive plant last year and is on track to build more than 600,000 vehicles in 2023.

Found it!

From my perspective, the ownership experience of this reviewer screams “in beta test”… at least if one wants to be charitable and spot his 50% away-from-home experience with system reliability as rising to the “beta” category. Ok for someone like that YouTube poster, who despite the clickbait title is willing to forgive Ford for most of the problems he’s experienced because he likes the truck itself so much. Some people, myself included, will make a “hobby” out of something which wasn’t intended to be one, if that’s what it takes to gain the advantages from something (e.g. 3D printer) which has both big pluses and big minuses. I just want people to be aware of what situations they might find themselves in at this stage of the system’s (vehicle + away-charging + charging app) development. Then they can decide if the perceived risk/hassle/reward is worth it for their circumstances.

Every time we drive by that plant, we see truckload after truckload full of shiny new Teslas entering freeways. :slight_smile: Of course, most end up in my neighborhood - or so it seems. :laughing:

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We were promised a tour of the Fremont plant as a “sweetener” when we got the Tesla. We’ve never cashed in on that.

I’d see them frequently on the freeway in past years, although not as much as I used to.

We bought our Tesla in 2014 and flew to the Bay Area to pick it up. The Freemont tour was great, as was the meandering drive back down the coast. Customer service was excellent when we got it. Just okay now. Next car? Thinking hybrid.

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Yes, it’s doing great (after Elon had to start sleeping there). But no land to expand and even where little land exists, the County/City regulators are not accommodating to expansion; hence, the tents. not to mention that BA air quality standards are not exactly conducive to spray painting stuff. And energy (gas, electric) is kept expensive by design. Moreover, it’s not as efficient as the Giga factories due to the cramped layout.

My main point is that when Elon can build a more efficient factory somewhere else in the US, he will.

btw: Giga Texas is on its way to 10 million sq.ft. (And the Giga manufacturing processes are based on what was learned at Fremont.)

We love my hybrid. It suits our needs well and lessens our range anxiety when we are out of electric—it seamlessly switches to gas.

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From the “Tesla: Love the Car / Hate the Company” files… my wife’s Tesla S key fob died so she contacted Tesla and after multiple texts (you cannot speak with a human), they scheduled someone to come to our house tomorrow to replace it and link it to the car. Today, they sent a text saying that if the car is not inside an enclosed garage they will not send a tech because they refuse to work outside in the cold.

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Replacing the key fob battery did not fix the key fob?

We went through exact same situation. Both fobs died. We replaced the batteries and went through the recommended steps. It worked in the past but did not the last time. My husband was able to drive the car with the app, but it is not very convenient. When the fob is old, replacement of the battery does zip. The tech will bring a new fob and pair it with the car. Planned obsolescence.

Consumer Reports isn’t impressed with Tesla.

The Model 3 gets a score of 78(the Kia EV6 is the top rated at 91).

The Model Y gets a score of 73.

The Model S gets a score of 62.

The Model X gets a lowly 52.

That’s ridiculous about a tech not working outside. They can sit in the warm car, which you can heat up prior to their arrival!

My model 3 doesn’t have a fob. Just the phone app and the credit card thingy.

We pre-ordered a Prius limited earlier this week. It isn’t even in the US yet. Toyota slapped on all sorts of extra stuff we don’t want/ need but it was “too bad, so sad, take it or leave it” and no negotiating. But they were selling (presales) like hotcakes and some were gone before we even got a call back. So we are annoyed at the price bur glad the hassle is over with. Car is scheduled to arrive at the dealership (fortunately the one closest to our house) around Mar 5. Maybe DH’s broken driving leg will be out of the brace by then! We will have to Uber it over or get a friend to take us and I will drive it back (will stick the walker in the back). I can’t wait til we are healed from our ski fiascos!! It’s been a month so far….