Maybe you should look into moving to a state with a better power grid.
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Perhaps the 2 users who are both bickering and flagging each other can move on?
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For those who are looking for mid size EV SUVs, have you read about the Hyundai Ioniq 7 that is set to go on the market this year? I have signed up for status update emails about this model. I am super curious to find out how the interior will differ from the prototype in their PR announcements. That model was downright futuristic. They say it will be a 7 passenger vehicle, but whether that’s 7 comfortable passengers remains to be seen.
Anyway, I am interested because predictions are that it will have a 300+ (RWD) mile range and charge from 20% to 90% in 18 minutes.
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We are currently visiting the kids and grandkids. Due to our ski injuries we are being picked up a lot by the kids. Younger s picked us up at one point in his MIL’s Ioniq (DK what model it is). It was comfy. This trip we did not try to get in the back row of older s’s Tesla X b/c the middle bucket seats have car seats in them and with our temporary mobility issues it would have been way too challenging. That said, we have done it previously, when all our bones were intact, and were able to get back there with little trouble.
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Yup. On the EV forums the mantra is ABC, “Always Be Charging”. I rarely let it get below 70-80%. So easy to just plug in when I pull in the driveway. If I’ve been doing a lot of driving that day (done a mini road trip or something) then it will be low but otherwise it’s usually not that low so doesn’t take long to top off to 80%.
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Weird that it loses charge just sitting. Even my Chevy Bolt doesn’t do that. Aren’t you in a typically mild climate? I could see that in Minnesota or somewhere.
Vampire drain on Tesla cars is a common topic on Tesla forums. The issue seems to be that the car fully turns on under various conditions (sentry mode being one, but not the only one; access by Tesla or third party apps or opening a door does that as well) which causes significantly higher consumption during that time.
In contrast, the Bolt does not fully turn on until you press the on button; merely opening the doors does not result in going into the high power use state. It also does not have sentry, dog, etc modes that can also keep a Tesla turned on.
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Sentry mode uses charge at about 1 mile/hr in our older X. Ditto dog mode. Per our experimental observations.
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1 rated mile is probably a few hundred wH for an older Model X, which is consistent with few hundred watt consumption of an EV when it is “turned on”.
This months Consumer Reports has some excellent articles in it about cars. In particular there is an article entitled “Will an Electric Car Save You Money?”
It’s a great read.
And yes, I know many folks don’t like Consumer Reports. That’s not why I’m posting this!!
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We bought an electric not to save money, but to be environmentally conscious. That said, we didn’t mind driving electric when gas was over $5/gallon. And other than a set of tires purchased maybe 2 years ago, the car has, in 4 1/2 years, cost us nothing. No maintenance costs, no need for oil or brake work etc. and our electric bill did not increase with the home charging .
We are also in the process of buying a hybrid, and have been reading on Facebook groups for the car the discussion of car cost vs fuel cost vs environmental issues. It’s an interesting read to see the differing opinions.
For those who drive an electric/ICE combo that doesn’t need much gas.
In our area, they sell what they call recreational gas. Has no ethanol, different than premium gas.
We were told that it’s preferred for our lawnmower, snowblower and gas powered lawn tools. It’s sold in our area because we have a lot of off road vehicles. I’m not sure if it’s sold other places also.
But is it legal to use “recreational gasoline” in on-road vehicles for both taxation and emissions reasons?
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Per CR: “EVs can also cost less to repair and maintain, but we haven’t included those savings here…”
Yeah, I get why they ignored these savings, but ignoring these savings makes their analysis much much weaker and is lazy journalism. It would have been easy to factor in standard maintenance over say, a 3-4 year period and do the math. (And I’d bet all of a sudden, the ICE hybrids wouldn’t look to positive.)
“And other than a set of tires purchased maybe 2 years ago, the car has, in 4 1/2 years, cost us nothing. No maintenance costs, no need for oil or brake work etc. and our electric bill did not increase with the home charging .”
Our experience is similar to jym’s, except now approaching 5 years. Our only maintenance was to add window washer fluid and change the wipers. Still on original tires. Did rotate the tires once – tire guy said not needed – as old habits die hard.
edited to add: just forgot that the 12v battery did start to die – received an electronic message on the screen – and Tesla sent out a mobil ranger next day to replace it at no charge.
(btw: no smog/vehicle check required either.)
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I live in an expensive electricity state. I found the article interesting.
Googled it. Not an expert
I’m in the state of Michigan, rec gas is taxed at the same rate as regular gasoline.
I just assumed that it was. Since it’s from a regular pump and the price was higher than premium.
I spent a little more time reading 
. It looks like the off road gasoline tax is to maintain trails. And offset environmental impacts. Things like that. So not taxed in road improvements but other impacts that off road vehicles can cause.
I usually like CR, but that is odd. Even Edmunds, when looking at car costs, includes cost to maintain, insure, resale value, etc. These are all factors affecting a vehicle’s overall cost.
EVs are not automatically exempt from tire rotation. It depends on the vehicle as to whether they will wear the tires evenly or not.
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