<p>If you’re talking about CAL over Brown, that’s a hard one. Berkeley is an amazing and exciting place, and some kids just plumb hate the cold weather when they have been reared in the land of sunshine.</p>
<p>If it’s any help, there is no comparison between the town of Berkeley and Providence. Berkeley has an interesting network of multiple streets with cafes, bookstores, restaurants, the cupkates truck (cupkatesbakery.com), and the passers-by (street people, locals, other students, professors chat you up). The vibrancy of CAL cannot be beat–it hums and throbs.</p>
<p>When my daughter visited Brown, she was disappointed that Thayer (?) seemed to be the only “active” street–she had been comparing it to home (Berkeley), and she didn’t find the students as welcoming as the ones she’d encountered hanging out on the CAL campus and Telegraph, upon growing up, very close to campus.</p>
<p>My daughter looked at Brown and Tufts for ED and chose to apply to Tufts (liked it more for very personal and meaningful (for her) reasons), and she definitely had the data, hooks, recs., EC, to be very competitive for Brown, I believe. </p>
<p>So, yes, some students do pick other schools over Brown, for a variety of reasons. The Ivy League label meant nothing to her after she compiled a list of pros and cons for each school. In fact, her second choice, had she not gotten into Tufts, ED, was Wash U. or Rice.</p>
<p>And, if you’re not talking about CAL as a possibility, but Pomona or Harvey Mudd, for example, I would pick Brown–I hate the smoggy and boring location of the Claremont Men’s colleges. If you’re talking about Stanford over Brown, and have any sort of political consciousness (e.g. are liberal and cared about the last election), I would pick Brown. Stanford is a-political and kind of like Palo Alto, itself–boring and provincial.</p>
<p>So, really, try to make a list of your possible schools with pros and cons, which do not include weather, unless weather is very important to you, which, for some kids, it is. I have known kids who transferred to UCLA (from Swarthmore and Cornell, respectively, this year) because they hated the weather (and the social scene).</p>
<p>Good luck–it’s nice, albeit agonizing, to have choices.</p>