With the CA budget, should we be applying to CA schools?

<p>I know there's another thread for this, but I didn't want to cut through the argument. I just want a clear answer with a clear explanation. Should we be applying there? I live on the east coast.</p>

<p>thanks</p>

<p>Which schools are you referring to specifically? And what are your goals? What major are you looking at? Is money an issue ?(OOS is VERY expensive) That’s the only way you are going to get a “clear answer with a clear explanation”. Generic questions engender generic responses.</p>

<p>CSU colleges accept less than 2% OOS .HOW IS THAT FOR A CLEAR ANSWER .</p>

<p>I was talking to an economist about this, and he said that the education in CA would not suffer as much. The CA constitution prevents the destruction of the education system in times of crisis, while each UC school would never let their specialty department (Like UCSD has IR) lag, even if they have to sacrifice other departments.</p>

<p>"CSU colleges accept less than 2% OOS .HOW IS THAT FOR A CLEAR ANSWER "</p>

<p>westhigh, I’d love to know where you got that little factoid. I don’t think it is true.</p>

<p>My bigger concern is with cuts to classes, it could take a long time to get all you need done to graduate especially if you have classes that need to go in sequence and it no longer is offered more than once a year.</p>

<p>I believe there is accuracy re CSU’s taking very few OOS applicants, and UC’s a tad better- but you would need to have very high stats. Very high. Have you considered the privates? They love OOS, and there is varying amounts of merit aid. My son’s friend at U of Redlands (Southern CA area) wanted to go to Berkeley but discovered the UC’s were non-receptive. He is from Chicago. He’s doing well at Redlands (my son is there as well- he was accepted at four UC’s but wanted a small school). If there is something you love about CA in general, figure out what it is. Odds are there is a private school here that will meet your educational/geographical/social needs and will WANT you.</p>

<p>The CSUs are quite happy to accept oos and international students. The reason there are not many is that not many apply. The oos coa for a CSU is ~$30,000 - $35,000/year, and most students can find a comparable education at their own state’s public university for far less.</p>

<p>Do you mean including room and board? This link is confusing to read but the tuition for OOS alone does not look that high.</p>

<p>[CSUMentor</a> - Explore Campuses - Campus Facts - San Jose State University](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>http://www.csumentor.edu/campustour/undergraduate/23/san_jose_state_university/san_jose_state_university4.html)</p>

<p>It also depends on the major you are interested in eg architecture at Cal poly whether it is a good deal or not.</p>

<p>Yes, coa = Cost of attendance = tuition, room, board, books, expenses and transportation. In-state COA at the CSUs ranges from about $18,000- $22,000, and out of state students can expect to add $9,000 to $14,000 in out-of-state tuition fees to that amount, depending on the number of units they take in a given year.</p>

<p>There is no “tuition” for in-state, just “fees,” which are about $5,500, depending on the campus - $5,370 at SJSU, as stated in your link. When looking at the link you included, you must add the out of state tuition of $8,928 to the comprehensive tuition/room/board fees of $21,586 for a total of $30,514/year.</p>

<p>To see it stated another way, here is how the cost of attendance is shown on the SJSU website (the format doesn’t work on college confidential, so follow the link to see a nice, tidy table :slight_smile: ):</p>

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[url=<a href=“http://www.sjsu.edu/faso/Applying/Cost_of_Attendence/]San”>http://www.sjsu.edu/faso/Applying/Cost_of_Attendence/]San</a> Jos</p>

<p>It sure gets pricey, however, I don’t know that going OOS to other states is much more of a bargain. Fee’s for OOS to any other state than their own is often $10K more when you just look at the tuition difference. </p>

<p>I think willingness to pay the cost is dependent on other factors that one may get by going to school in CA. In our case, I am from CA but now live in the East so must pay OOS fees. My entire family is there and the CSUs offer a major my son is interested in that only 60 schools (half are private art school, not cheaper) in the entire U.S. offer.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info alememom, now I have a clear idea of what we would have to pay.</p>

<p>Do you have family living near the campuses he is interested in? The oos tuition and fees ONLY piece is about $$14,000 - $16,000/year, it is the huge cost of living in California that almost doubles it. (And, of course, paperback textbooks that cost $175 each…) If he could live with family instead of on-campus, maybe that would make it more affordable?</p>

<p>Not really. I kind of look at it like those Mastercard commercials. How much is it worth for my mom to finally have my son living in the same state as her so she can see him more often then just summers?</p>

<p>haha! It would be worth a lot!</p>

<p>Would your son have “stats” that might make him eligible for merit aid or an EFC that might make him eligible for need-based aid? In some cases, California privates that appear more expensive on the surface are a better buy for oos applicants than the publics. A brief glance at your past posts show mention of architecture and film… that brings USC to mind. Have you looked into merit and/or need-based aid there?</p>

<p>My son is interested in Arch. but has expanded to also be interested in Industrial design. SJSU has that program, USC has Arch but their design major is in the Art school. My son would prefer to go to school on the west coast so while I have a list of east coast schools, I keep exploring west coast places that would be a good fit. I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t qualify for need aid, merit is possible but hard to know and count on that. </p>

<p>I went to both UCSC and SFSU 30 years ago so it is kind of sad to see such problems with CA school systems now.</p>