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<p>Okay, so this whole time i was thinking that John hopkins was like one of the best colleges, my teacher always talks so highly about it, its great med program...</p>

<p>I must have looked up the wrong college right? But look at the average GPA's accepted...</p>

<p>College</a> Search - Johns Hopkins University - Hopkins - At a Glance</p>

<p>That’s the right school…</p>

<p>*# 47% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher</p>

<h1>30% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74*</h1>

<p>What’s your issue? </p>

<p>I’m not sure if these GPA’s are unweighted?</p>

<p>Look at their test score middle quartile range</p>

<p>Test Scores - Middle 50% of First-Year Students </p>

<p>SAT Critical Reading: 630 - 730<br>
SAT Math: 670 - 770<br>
SAT Writing: 650 - 730<br>
ACT Composite: 29 - 33 </p>

<p>These are high ranges. Are you expecting every student to have perfect stats?</p>

<p>Apply and see if you get in!</p>

<p>Half the UC school’s have much higher GPA’s than that school. A freaking 3.2 student has a good chance of getting in there!</p>

<p>Again: Apply and see if you get into JHU! All of us don’t have a 4.0 GPA. Sorry!</p>

<p>Okay i mean compare it to ucla.</p>

<pre><code>* 92% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher

  • 4% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
  • 2% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
  • 1% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
  • 1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
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<p>This does not necessarily imply that the UC’s are more selective; it could be due to differences in the calculation of GPA (e.g., core vs. elective or weighted vs. unweighted) and/or differences in admissions priorities.</p>

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<p>The figures show what percent of the student body falls within a certain GPA range, not the chance of acceptance for an applicant who falls within a certain GPA range.</p>

<p>But wouldn’t it technically mean the chances? Since 17% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49. Then wouldn’t you most likely have a 17% chance of getting accepted?</p>

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<p>No. Harvard could, for example, report that 98% of its students have SAT scores over 2000. Does that mean that Bob, with his 2040, has a 98% chance of acceptance?</p>

<p>It’s also worth noting that the UCs are reporting their UC GPA, and Johns Hopkins is probably reporting something else. I’m thinking unweighted, because if you’re applying there with a 3.6 W on a normal scale and you think you’re getting in, you’re sadly deluded.</p>

<p>Another thing to keep in mind is that what you tend to hear about for Johns Hopkins is the bio-related stuff, which is SUPER-hard to get in for. The rest of the school probably has slightly less excruciating standards.</p>

<p>I would attribute the high UC GPAs to run away grade inflation at CA public high schools. JHU draws from all over the country and world and attracts many more kids from top private high schools. The cohort there is at least as strong as any UC and probably stronger.</p>

<p>You can’t really compare privates to publics. Publics like UCs strongly use GPA and rank so that all the freshmen don’t come from more affluent areas…so some of those GPA’s are “falsely high” because they’re from inadequate schools.</p>

<p>UCLA is also a bigger school. Those 2-4% that have low GPAs could be athlete recruits.</p>

<p>I think GPA is a poor way of comparing both colleges on accepted students and individual applicants. Every high school is different in terms of difficulty and in terms of how competitive it is. Class rank can even be a misleading statistic too. </p>

<p>JHU can look at the applicants more holistically, while UCLA has to be more formulaic in its approach because it is dealing with so many more applicants.</p>

<p>oo silver, i see your point now.</p>

<p>Doctor123…Is it safe to assume that you want to go to med school?</p>

<p>If so, don’t worry about all these side issues. Your goal should be getting into a good school with good hard science courses, so that you’ll do well on the MCAT and have a strong GPA (over 3.7) when you graduate (high GPA especially in those high science courses). </p>

<p>And, if money is an issue, do not go to an undergrad where you’ll have to borrow much since you’ll also have med school to borrow for (big bucks!)</p>

<p>What are your stats?</p>

<p>Where are you applying?</p>

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<p>Hopkins is strong in a lot of subjects, not just bio. And it doesn’t really admit based on major other than for BME.</p>

<p>There are some people in this thread who need to take a statistics course before looking at any more numbers. :P</p>

<p>Is it OK if I inject a staggeringly dumb question?</p>

<p>We home-schooled our kids and did not assign conventional grades, so we are ignorant. At least I am. Back in my day, my high school (at least) used numerical percentage averages, e.g., 96%. </p>

<p>So, OK, what’s the difference between a weighted and an unweighted GPA? Is an unweighted GPA of 4.0 a bad thing? </p>

<p>I am so confused!</p>

<p>[Here</a> is an explanation of weighted and unweighted GPA:](<a href=“http://www.vegsource.com/homeschool/hischool/messages/7539.html]Here”>http://www.vegsource.com/homeschool/hischool/messages/7539.html)</p>

<p>For an explanation =P
Basically weighted is the grade plus a little boost point (usually.5 pt) that serves as a bonus for taking a more challenging class.</p>

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<p>I didn’t say it wasn’t strong, because I know it is. I said that almost all the hype goes to the bio programs, so that’s both where you hear about JHU and where it’s toughest to get in.</p>

<p>As for not admitting by major, they don’t say that they do for anything besides BME. But what I’ve heard is that, if you’re putting down a bio-related major as your first choice- or both of them- you’d better be a really good applicant.</p>

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<p>An unweighted GPA is calculated treating every class the same. Usually, an A is 4 points, a B is 3, and so on and so forth. With a weighted GPA, AP and sometimes honors classes (I don’t know for sure about IB, but I think they do this too) get extra weight. Often, for an AP class, an A is 5 points, a B is 4, a C is 3, and so on.</p>