Worrying about Wesleyan: the Argus

<p>Hello all,</p>

<p>My son applied early decision to Wesleyan this week, so I suppose it's a moot point now, but reading the archived issues of the student paper at Wesleyan (if you want to do it, see:
<a href="http://www.wesleyan.edu/argus/archives04.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wesleyan.edu/argus/archives04.html&lt;/a&gt;) made me VERY nervous. </p>

<p>Some recurring themes included:</p>

<p>extreme difficulty of getting the classes you want due to rigid block scheduling and a few extremely popular classes - so, what's wrong with the other ones?</p>

<p>cancelling of beginning French and Spanish classes, the justification being that if kids wanted to take French and Spanish, they would have started in high school. budget crunch and ominous mutterings about other changes</p>

<p>closing or drastic cut back of the ethnomusicology program which had been one of the best in the country. My son loves world music and was counting on this as being part of his environment.</p>

<p>tuition bills going higher and higher (Wesleyan is one of the most expensive colleges anyway) while classes are being reduced AND dining hall options are being reduced</p>

<p>siphoning of funds towards the huge capital projects (big glitzy buildings) while academics and dining hall are suffering</p>

<p>there seems to be an enduring animosity between the student body and the administration, mentioned frequently on epinions.com and also in the paper</p>

<p>OF COURSE, it is the angriest students who tend to write for the paper (after all, none of us feel moved to write articles like: "Food Good and Classes Satisfying" any more than we would go to Roz Chast's movie about a happy cat: "Fluffy Gets Fed.") however, I wish I had seen all this before the die was cast. </p>

<p>Comments?</p>

<p>The Arugs LOVES complaining. Wesleyan students tend to be very vocal about things, but if you read ANY college paper, you will hear a lot of complaining. My sister basically says that 10% of the students do 90% of the complaining, and she says that if she read the Argus before she applied, she would have gotten the wrong inpression of the school.</p>

<p>I've applied early; waiting to hear back.</p>

<p>The Argus only reinforced my decision - I don't want to go to a school where no one addresses the issues. Like you say, the 'complaining' group is self-selected to have little or no opposition in print.</p>

<p>Monroe echoes my opinions exactly. Also having applied early decision this past week, I'm very active in my high school newspaper, and when selecting colleges, I looked at the newspapers of different schools to find out more about their "characters." Wesleyan seemed very open and student-oriented. Yes, there were complaints - but things were talked about, which leads to postive change.</p>

<p>However, the not-so-great relationship between the administration and the student body seems to be very true. In my opinion, that's alright, and it doesn't seem to detract from the educational experiences students are recieving.</p>

<p>Is the cancelling of beginning French and Spanish classes a done deal, or is it being discussed?</p>

<p>There are both introductory French and Spanish classes. The students fought hard for them and won.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info, Ziplocky.</p>

<p>Fancy meeting you here, Holls.</p>

<p>Class difficulty: This is an issue with a relatively small core of classes, the most heinous offender being Intro to Sociology (SOC 151). They cap this class at about 20 or 25 students and have usually 2 or 3 sections, and the demand just outpaces the supply. There are rumors of students who couldn't declare the Soc major because they never got into SOC 151, but that seems rare to me since all my friends who've wanted to take it eventually got into it.</p>

<p>Some other classes (especially government and some upper division English, American Studies, etc. classes) exhibit similar behavior. There also has been talk of the registrar opening more "blocks" and trying to rearrange things so classes don't all coincidence into certain popular blocks (11 am M/W/F, 1:10 pm Tu/Th). They've been slowly introducing social sciences classes that meet at night too. I grant that this is still a problem, but with persistence and a clear idea of what you want to be in, it's not usually a huge problem. </p>

<p>French and Spanish: The main issue was SPAN 101 being cut. The Spanish department's complaint was that few people who started the SPAN 101 track once at Wesleyan completed through SPAN 112 (the end of the four semester intro track), and that the vast majority of majors came from students who started in SPAN 111 (3rd semester) at the earliest. French had a similar logic in cutting back to one section of FREN 101. There was huge student outcry, and the departments came to their senses and reinstituted multiple sections of all these classes. I'm sure they won't try it again.</p>

<p>closing or drastic cut back of the ethnomusicology program which had been one of the best in the country. My son loves world music and was counting on this as being part of his environment.</p>

<p>Ethnomusicology: I don't really know much about this department, sorry. I'm a science major.</p>

<p>Tuition Hikes: Tuition is rising at every school, and while Wesleyan is technically one of the most expensive, it's really about the same price as any other top private give or take maybe $1,000. As tuition goes up, so does financial aid. Wesleyan is need blind and meets 100% of need, and the grant aid given to students who qualify is, one average, substantial.</p>

<p>This month just past marks the conclusion of "The Wesleyan Campaign" which raised $250 million, most of which goes toward financial aid.</p>

<p>Fund Siphoning: Any university's finances are relatively complicated. In most cases the "glitzy buildings" (which are actually almost all dorms, new academic buildings, and a new dining hall/student center) are funded mostly or entirely by specific donations from big-money donors, with the rest coming from the aforementioned Wesleyan Campaign. At no point has tuition money gone to building new buildings, to my knowledge.</p>

<p>Administration and student relations: Yep, this is one is a biggie and unfortunately there isn't much we can do about it, since this is a private school and Doug Bennet basically has the run of the place. I'm sure his heart is in the right place, but he has a very specific idea of what Wesleyan ought to be (hint: it involves looking more like Amherst) and many students just don't agree with him, but he always gets his way by default (see the debates on the chalking ban, gender-neutral housing, and the campus radio station, WESU -- all extensively covered in the Argus over the past year and a half that I've been here).</p>

<p>And, you're right that most of the noise is made by a few students, but the kids at Wesleyan aren't usually the types to sit down when they feel they're getting a raw deal.</p>

<p>I don't mean to sound like a cheerleader, but since your son applied ED I figured I'd try to dispel some of your worries. Good luck to your son.</p>

<p>Wesleyan seems perfect (even what people deems "negative" I find attractive). I'm only a junior, but I'm going to apply ED 1 next year. Good luck you all that applied!</p>

<p>There's something to complain about everywhere. Wesleyan is a wonderful school. Yale trims programs, most recently in languages, Brandeis trims programs, classics etc, Harvard trims programs. This kind of stuff happens all the time at all schools. Go to Wesleyan if you can see yourself there for four years. There's nothing wrong with the school.</p>

<p>My D, who recently graduated from Wes, has a theory that they cap the Soc 151 because otherwise, every other Wes student would be a Soc major (not sure if she's tongue in cheek or not.) They offered an intro for probable non-majors (soc 152) which she was able to take, so she could take other soc classes.</p>

<p>She also took quite a few ethnomusic classes (such as gamelon and African drumming). Since they have a grad program in this, I can't see it being drastically cut. </p>

<p>Admittedly, she did struggle to get the classes she needed in her major, gov, because last year there were several sabbaticals and pregnancies in the dept at the same time. She became adept at campaigning to get into closed classes--practically stood on her head to get into Crenshaw's terrorism class--and I think she developed some good persistence and salesmanship skills in the process!:)</p>

<p>Seriously, it's a wonderful school---don't be scared off by Argus. She'd go back and do it again if she could!</p>

<p>Xmatt, I want to thank you belatedly for such a long and illuminating post. So I assume you are a current student at Wesleyan... we continue to worry and wait...</p>

<p>Hey Cedronella, If you look at the April 2, 2004 Argus, where you got your info, you might look at the bylines...as for cutting back on the music program, the author was
Shmaggegie St. Walters. I would say it's an April Fools spoof. Same with the other articles. And shame on everyone else who didn't check this out.</p>

<p>Hey, science major at Wes? All of my tour guides/hosts/interviewer persons have been humanities. The strength of sciences is my only reservation about Wes, mostly because I haven't heard anything about it. I'm applying anyway, of course.</p>

<p>Among grad and med school circles, Wesleyan has a tremendous reputation in the sciences. It's one of the very few LACs with Ph.D-level programs in math, bio, MB-BC, and Physics. It receives more NSF money in a given year than Amherst, Williams and Swarthmore--combined. And it's med school acceptance rate hovers around 90%. The problem is that it's hard for the sciences to compete in the realm of popular perception when you have young alum like Akiva Goldsman winning the Academy Award for best movie screenplay; Josh Whedon and Sebastian Junger writing cult classics like "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "The Perfect Storm"; or John Turteltaub and David Handler cranking out box-office hits like "National Treasure" and "A Series of Unfortunate Events" within weeks of each other. Let's face it, it's hard for science nerds to compete with all those American Studies graduates (another Wesleyan specialty.) The nice part, however, is that for true science devotees, you get to have one of the top programs in the country--all to yourselves; there are only a small number of TAs at any given time, so professors are constantly enlisting u/gs for research. The bottom line: Wesleyan has one of the highest rates of u/g co-authored science papers in the country. So, go ahead and apply. You won't regret it.</p>

<p>Yeah, John Wesley has it about right. I've been pretty pleased with the quality of the science classes. I'm on the campus tour guide staff too (they're really trying to get science people to do it) and I can tell you that the science departments and the Dean of the Sciences are extremely concerned with making sure the tour guide staff tells people the info about undergrad research and med school admissions.</p>

<p>I am not pre-med, but there are a lot of departments where they bend over backwards to get undergrads involved in research. I had some friends who were here over the summer just pas (after their freshman year) on the Hughes Grant program doing work that would eventually be published partially under their names.</p>

<p>I think the deal is basically that while we don't have anywhere near the sheer breadth of research interests that a mecca like an MIT or a Stanford does, by any stretch of the imagination, what we do have is sometimes more accessible to undergrads than it might be at some of those schools. But John also has a good point in that our programs are a lot more mature than what a lot of LACs have to offer. I like to think we have a balance between well-developed research programs and the sort of collegial, cooperative atmosphere that LACs are known for.</p>

<p>And about TAs: they don't teach any of the classes, though they do oversee the lab sections for some intro classes. Frankly, I like the TAs. They're usually very good at relating to the experience of students just assimilating the material (often better than profs who are 40 years removed from that experience) and I feel that having a handful grad students as part of the science community is a real boon for us.</p>

<p>It is unfortunate that some people at Wesleyan still recite the tiresome tripe about how "I never have to take science again!" (they kind of do...) The administration is working hard to change this perception, but you definitely shouldn't worry that the sciences are lacking in quality - they are quite good.</p>