Would a Associate in Science in Physics degree from my community college benefit me for medical school? How so?

I took a look at your other thread, where you listed the classes you have taken or are now taking. I’m assuming that you got straight A’s in these classes. The reality is that most of these classes are remedial, meaning that they cover material that most students have taken in high school. Some of them would fulfill general education requirements at a linked 4-yr institution with a pre-set transfer agreement with your community college.

If you wanted to transfer to a four year college with an associate’s degree in Physics, and continue on for a BA in Physics, and there were an existing, guaranteed plan which guaranteed that transfer, assuming high enough grades, and you had a career goal for which a BA in Physics would qualify you, then an AS in Physics leading to a BS in Physics might be a good idea.

But you seem more interested in a career in healthcare - you’re talking medical or dental school.
Community college is not a springboard to medical or dental school, and not to nursing/NP or PA school, and not to dental hygiene or dental assisting, or frankly, any ancillary medical field, unless you are in a nursing or ancillary medical program at the community college. You would find it extremely difficult, and likely impossible, to move forward with any of these paths, if your basic sciences were done at the community college. Medical schools and dental schools are highly competitive. They reject many applicants with B’s in basic sciences with lab done at good four year colleges, so for them to consider someone who took their basic sciences at a community college, the person would have to have near-perfect MCATs and a good explanation for having gone to community college (like lack of funds) - except that med and dental schools are very expensive, too.

Did you take the SAT or ACT? While the MCAT is largely reflective of the content of the basic science courses, one’s performance on the SAT or ACT would give one an idea of how one might score on the MCAT, assuming appropriate preparation.

I suggest you take a frank look at your career goals. If you think that you can get into med school (and BTW, for dental school, you also need to have a certain visual-spatial ability, as tested on the DAT), I would suggest that you choose your target transfer school immediately, make an appointment with the pre-med or pre-dental advisor at that school, and go in and ask them to give you a frank evaluation of the likelihood of your being admitted to medical or dental school with an AS in Physics from a community college, followed by a BA from their school. They will very likely recommend that you transfer to the 4 yr college immediately, and give up the idea of pursuing an AS in Physics if your goal is medical or dental school.

If you like physics, and want to work in medicine, I suggest that you take a look at radiation technology, or radiation oncology technology/therapy. These are achievable, respected, necessary and in-demand ancillary medical fields, that require some understanding of physics. Technicians of these sorts work in X-ray, MRI, CT, ultrasound, and radiation oncology. They are paid well, often with a two year degree from a community college, plus additional on-the-job training. Respiratory therapy might be of interest to you, also. You can get an RN at the community college level, make a decent living, and your job would pay for the night classes to move to the BSN. After that, you could consider becoming a nurse anesthetist, but it’s highly competitive to get into these programs. The beauty of that route is that every step of the way, you become qualified to earn a good living.

But if you are focused on medical or dental school, and think that you have the ability to get admitted, then you need to apply now to transfer to begin at the 4 yr flagship U, or if not that, 4 yr state college, this summer. The classes you intend to take at the community college will not lead to medical or dental school admission. You asked, “Would an AS in Physics from my community college benefit me for medical school?” The answer is NO. It would be a waste of time and money, and might in fact DETRACT from your ability to get into med school. Either choose to apply for and attend a community college or 4-yr college course for a degree in an ancillary medical field, or transfer to a 4 yr college and begin your premeds there. Continuing at the community college on the path you have outlined will not help you to achieve your goals of a career in any medical field.

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Thx for the info.

@napnemeanix

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Getting an AS in Physics will not be useful. Completing some courses (even if they don’t lead to the AS) will help you though.

Keep in mind that you need to get straight A’s, and therefore pace yourself. Getting into Med School is a marathon, not a sprint. As a result, you need to create balanced schedules - this, too, will be evaluated.

Are you getting an A in Calc1? If not, go to Office hours, get a tutor, do everything you can to get those grades to an A.

Typically, you would take Linear Algebra+Differential Equations one semester, Calculus 3 another semester. While the classes can be taken in any order, it’s not a good idea to take them all together. You’ll need time to process the new concepts, especially since they represent different branches of math.

It means you could take Chem1 and Calc 2 in the summer, or Chem1+Calc2 +Literature (or a speech/communication class) over the Fall semester.

The following semester: Physics 1+Chem2+a more advanced sociology or psychology class.

You will HAVE TO take Organic Chemistry at a 4-year college for it to count for med school, unless you’re at a California Community College and will transfer to a UC. (Most med schools will only accept CC science courses if you take a more advanced class in the same subject at the 4-year college and Orgo must be taken at the 4-year).

You also need to volunteer at a clinic and have activities that show your ability to handle classes AND lots of co-curricular activities, all while getting A’s and showing leadership.

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Currently getting a B in Calc 1.

Get a tutor and go to office hours (in-person or on zoom, depending on what’s possible). You need to get an A. Do everything you can to get A’s since that’s the expectation for a premed in 1st year pre-req courses (Calculus 1&2, Biology 1&2, Chemistry 1&2, English Composition, Psychology, Sociology) since further courses become much harder.
You need almost all A’s to qualify for med school and, before that, because an A means mastery and you need mastery to get through the very difficult classes that will follow, building on this first course.
What’s your High school Physics background ? Conceptual Physics? Honors Physics? AP Physics 1?
What’s your current GPA?
Look carefully at the professions suggested by Parentologist in Message#21.

I got my GED in 2017 and started college in 2019 of Fall.

I got sick so many times with the cold could not go to HS.

Cumulative GPA 3.360 and Graduation GPA 3.400

But I did some research long as the GPA is between 3.0 I should be fine. All A’s? is med school Ivy League-level now :open_mouth:

A college GPA of 3.0 is not going to make you a competitive applicant for any medical school.

Only 40% of medical school applicants receive acceptances…and of that group, most receive only one acceptence.

Please do look at the list of other health professions in the link provided on one of your threads.

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Thanks. Maybe I should consider nursing in anesthetist aka CRNA. The problem is a gap salary between anesthesiologist and CRNA.

Here is a grid of medical school admission rates by college GPA and MCAT score. Be aware that most medical school applicants apply to dozens of medical school in hopes of getting one admission (only about 40% of applicants get any, and most of those get one).
https://www.aamc.org/system/files/2020-10/2020_FACTS_Table_A-23.pdf

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Nurse anesthetists earn a very decent salary…and their schooling isn’t nearly as lengthy. But that is not a cakewalk field in terms of admission either.

I’m going to be very frank. Please do not become a doctor because you want to be wealthy. You have many years of school ahead of you and a residency where you will work 50 hours a week or more for a pretty low salary. And you will have a TON of loans…a ton. You can’t work part time while you are in medical school.

I strongly suggest you sit down and discuss becoming a doctor with more than a few people who are doctors. They will tell you what the road is like. It’s not an easy one.

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Yes, med school is that hard to get into.
Expected minimum GPA is now 3.6 for MD, ~3.4 for DO (both become doctors) but most admitted students have a 3.7+ - an A- average.
It means mostly A’s, with some B’s.
Basically you have to be top 20% in every course, and top 10% in your science courses and in your major.
Most students get weeded out after General Chemistry/General Biology, or after Organic Chemistry which is even harder. And med school is far harder than that, which is why they only admit students who are at the top of their class in each of the prescribed courses. You need to read fast, comprehend quickly, retain and memorize, synthesize, apply, analyze quickly and thoroughly.

Because 2nd level classes are harder than 1st level classes, getting an A showing mastery in all introductory classes (General Chem1, General Bio1, etc) is essential in order to do ok in the next levels.

Of those who remain and have the A/A- average + the required clinical experience + the relevant activities, a majority actually don’t get into any med school - only 40% do nationally.

PA (which requires 6 years of study v. 12years minimum for doctors) accepts a 3.4 but you need about 10 hours of clinical experience every week of every year in college (except Christmas).

Does your CC offer a program so you can be certified as an EMT or a CNA? Once you’re certified, this would also count in addition to volunteering at a clinic, if you have “patient contact”, and you’d get paid.
You can also try to get into Nursing school after completing some Biology, Anatomy&Physiology, and chemistry courses where you’ll try and get the highest possible grade + clinical experience.
RN programs are dificult to get into but less so than med school and most importantly you don’t have to study for 12 years.

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This was just a thought I had. I still have to review what I really want to do. the anesthesiologist was just a thought a maybe.

I have to double check with my CC if they offer those EMT, I think they do have it maybe, I know they have a nursing in AAS.

Even becoming a nurse anesthetist is very competitive. You got a GED, and do you mean that you have a 3.4 at community college (where most of the courses you’ve already taken are remedial courses)?

I don’t know anything about your background. It sounds as if you are an immigrant, because your written English doesn’t sound native. You may have faced extraordinary challenges in achieving what you have managed to achieve thus far in your education, that would make you justifiably take pride in what you have accomplished so far. I’m just trying to give you realistic feedback.

People who have even a chance of getting into medical school (or PA school) would get a 4.0 at community college, and would not feel challenged at all while doing it. You need to take a realistic look at other ancillary medical fields. See what the community college offers, and work towards that. Look at other community colleges nearby, too. I would look for an RN program, or respiratory therapist, or X-ray tech, or such. You could consider an EMT certification, with the goal of paramedic in the future. Try to choose programs that get you a certification that can lead to further certification with a four year degree, so that you’ll have options to advance.

An associate’s degree in Physics will not be a step towards any of these things. Go to the counselor at your community college ASAP and discuss career options in ancillary medical fields, with training available at local community colleges or 4 year state colleges.

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English is not my second language and I’m proud of it. I’m very honest about stuff. Never pretend to be something you’re not or else it can sink a person in hot water. In most of the courses, I have gotten A’s and B’s No C’s or D’s which is good and won’t impact my FAFSA. I’ve made it on the Honors list and Deans List in the past :slight_smile: I don’t mind budgeting 1.5 year for a Physics degree, I really want to learn more about Physics, Chemistry and the other math courses I mentioned.

Once I got my GED, I took a break working then I left my job to pursue a college degree.

I don’t feel challenged just math and English can sometimes be very irritating to me, especially those gens and pre-reqs at my CC, I had to take 6 courses in two semesters to speed up the General Studies degree, they were so boring to me. Even though each course category unlocks a higher level course a student can be in. My friend just got her AGS degree and stopped there, she just didn’t go for a BS degree for some reason.

What do your grades have to do with your FAFSA. I’ll answer that…absolutely nothing at all. The FAFSA is a financial aid application form and has nothing on it having to do with your grades.

I really think you would benefit by talking to someone at your community college about career and major options. Many places have career centers that help students hone in on what interests them and how that translates into a college major.

My bet is you will find something that really piques your interest.

And really…one way to find out about jobs is to speak to folks who are actually doing those jobs.

Adding…there are a bunch of allied health professions as well. If you want to do something health related, there is likely a career out there for you.

@thumper1 I think the OP meant “impact my financial aid”. Grades do matter for Pell eligibility. If a student’s GPA falls below a certain point, or if there are too many developmental (pre-college level) courses, a student could be deemed ineligible for a Pell grant.

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It’s possible he meant Pell eligibility…but frankly, if his GPA gets so low that his Pell eligibility is in question, he probably would be on academic probation.

Perhaps the OP will clarify what he meant.

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