Would I meet W&M's OOS criteria?

Colleges and Universities A-Z College of William and Mary
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<p>Asian (female; Chinese/Vietnamese mix). Middle-class.
Rank: top 10%
Background: I reside in Michigan, and attend a magnet school (the first in the nation to have an economicology program with IB).
Sibling(s): 1, a sister who currently attends University of Michigan
Parents:
-Mother: high school diploma (from China)
-Father: high school diploma at 23, two years of college at Michigan Tech., but dropped out (escaped from Vietnam during the War--might add in college essay)</p>

<p>Possible Majors: political science, public policy, international relations, psychology, history
Possible Minors: history, sociology, economics</p>

<p>Standardized test scores:
ACT: 29 (will retake)
SAT: 1800 (first time, will DEFINITELY retake)
SAT II: US History, World History, Math I--results pending (I'm taking more SAT II's this fall--Math II, Lit, and perhaps chemistry)
AP's Junior year: AP US History, AP Lit, AP Macro Econ, AP US Gov--results pending, but I'm guessing all 4's or 5's
AP's (will take) Senior year: AP World History, AP Micro Econ, AP Psych, AP Comp Gov, AP Calc AB, AP Physics B, AP Lang, AP French</p>

<p>Trilingual:
-Chinese (Cantonese...I know, it's not going to get me anywhere when the AP Chinese and SAT II Chinese tests are done in Mandarin. I can comprehend Mandarin, but it takes awhile to relay it.)
-Chinese dialect
-comprehension of Vietnamese ( a bit)
-English</p>

<p>Vegetarian: 5 years (I'm not sure that it'll help)</p>

<p>GPA:
Unweighted: 3.88 (I got a few B's this year, which knocked me out of the Valedictorian contention and Salutatorian...I'm guessing that I'll graduate with a 3.92)
Weighted: 4.92</p>

<p>EC's:
Legislative Debate/Parliamentary Debate: 4 years (co-captain)
-consecutively broke to finals/semi-finals at state every year
-compete on national circuit
Student Congress: 2 years
-chairwoman of committee/press corps
Model UN: 1 year (new for our school)
Lincoln-Douglas: 1 year (new league for state of Michigan, will start in fall)
Policy Debate: 1 year (wasn't my thing)
Forensics: 4 years
-co-captain senior year
-fresh.-poetry; soph/jr/sr-extemp/impromptu
-consistently did well at invites/placed
-state semi-finalists (extemp)
E-Club/Environmental Club: 2 years (only member from junior class)
Student Council: 1 year
-treasurer
-prom/spirit week committee--"green prom" (links with E-Club)
NJHS: 3 years
NHS: 3 years
-vice-president (senior year)
-hoping to reform NHS next year, seeing as officers were a bit of a "let down" this year, OR will start up Key Club (of course, as President)
Interned at a law firm for 2 trimesters (possibility of interning at another firm in the fall)
-worked mostly on med. mal cases, tested the waters with corporate and environmental
-got a better understanding of the community, and how the firm, along with other organizations/pro-bono lawyers fit into the picture.
-outside experiences: YWCA and LAC
-While interning at the firm, I was offered to other internships (1) being the second firm (2) LAC--Legal Assistance Center w/ Heartside Ministries.
Volunteered:
-over 100 hours
-not included in 100 hours, but campaigned for many political candidates over the years (not limited to Obama)</p>

<p>Chance me. Please?
I know my test scores aren't up to par, but I'm studying my butt off over the summer to retake both the ACT, SAT, and more SAT II's in the fall.</p>

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<p>I just want to let you know that W&M doesn’t give SAT IIs much weight during admissions so, assuming you did reasonably well on the first round, you shouldn’t waste your Saturday just to have extra standardized test scores to flaunt.</p>

<p>Yes, your scores are a tad low but I got a 28 the first time on the ACT (I took it 6 months later, no studying, and got a 32) and I got in OOS. Do well on the tests, but focus your energies on more significant things.</p>

<p>Now will you get in? I don’t see why not but that means nothing in the end. I would say you are competitive, but OOS is rough.</p>

<p>Also there is no place for dietary preferences on any application…</p>

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<p>I think it would benefit you to focus your studying for the ACT and try to get your score over 30. Somewhere in 31-33 and you should be set.</p>

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<p>your test scores need a little bump, IMO. The rest of your application will be competitive</p>

<p>Vegetarian is not useful.</p>

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<p>in my school (ny public) everyone in the top 10% and with SATs over 2000 got in (10ppl) so it can’t be that hard</p>

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<p>Everyone in my school (in state public) in the top 10% with under a 2100 got wait-listed or rejected…</p>

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<p>haha thats really strange…</p>

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<p>That is really odd, I thought they were supposed to be more lenient with the in-state students.</p>

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<p>just because there are more instate students doesn’t mean they have weaker credentials. Northern VA has arguably the best public school systems in the country.</p>

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<p>Do you know how many are going to W&M? Do you know how many applied? Possibly W&M has yield statistics from your school. I assume more than 10 applied… that seems like a really high number from one out of state high school.</p>

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<p>a couple kids apply a year but none have ended up going but last year 14 people applied and 5 got in and 3 are there now. everyone got rejected except all the people with scores over 1350 and 2050 and with high gpas, top 10% at least, maybe top 5%</p>

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<p>oh i meant 10 people over a 5 year span, not all in one year…</p>

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<p>Does W&M look at OOS applicants differently (besides the fact that there’s less sports)? In other words is the importance ratio of Academics to ECs or Essays different for OOS applicants than it is for IS applicants?</p>

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<p>soccerguy, Thanks for defending the strong in-state field. My d went to a competitive northern Va public school, had a 3.9 GPA/2190 SAT, with 18 APs & Honors classes, strong music/sports/volunteer EC’s, a great interview and did not even get waitlisted. A few were admitted from her h.s. with slightly lower stats, but most had applied early decision.</p>

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<p>if your daughter were a boy he would have gotten in</p>

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<p>cyb - that’s very surprising. I wonder if they didn’t think she would go.</p>

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<p>ah! that makes more sense, heh.</p>

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<p>I don’t think so. But, because of the 2/3 - 1/3 requirements, out of state students only compete against other out of state students for a certain number of spots. (same for in state students)</p>