Wow, this year's waitlist is huge

<p>I think the “running out of time” excuse is only partly legitimate. If that is the case, why hasn’t Duke Admissions continued to evaluate the applications and given a definite rejection in the past week or two to those students who have no real chance of getting in. If Duke acknowledges there are students on the waitlist with no chance of being admitted, it is unfair to those students to string them along.</p>

<p>Also, in the article it says students may pick Duke because their basketball team won some championship. I highly doubt that. Are there really any students that will pick Duke because they have some students who are good at dribbling a basketball?</p>

<p>Yes, there are plenty of students who willingly camp outside (Camp K?) for weeks to get basketball tickets, living in tents to keep their place. I suspect most of those considered basketball when they applied to Duke.</p>

<p>The size of the waitlist depends on the number of people who accept a spot. If 1% of those 4000 students accept a spot on the waitlist, then you have 40 students who you can take. I honestly don’t see that ratio being very high, so a large wait-list is understandable if that’s true,</p>

<p>treeman, such smart advice. I totally agree. FA is crazy and totally unpredictable. and to contact a school to let them know it is not on your list is so considerate to others waiting & hoping for a spot.</p>

<p>Ray192: Usually at least 50% of those waitlisted for an elite school will stay on the waitlist. Even if they don’t really want to go there as their first choice, they still want to see if they get admitted. So your 1% scenario is way off target.</p>

<p>Accepting a spot on the waitlist at a place such as Duke would definitely be in the higher percentages. It’s funny, I was just talking with my friends today about how college applicants are all screwing each other over by applying to too many places. I personally applied to a lot (about 10) because my family urged/forced me to, but looking back, I really wish I would have applied to less or made more calculated decisions. There should be a return back to applying to 4/5 colleges.
However, I heard that this year, because of this problem with too many applicants and choices the colleges will be using their waitlists extensively.</p>

<p>Oh, well. Next year students will send in even more applications to top colleges.</p>

<p>@Soundwave-- I’m almost positive that on some applications they ask you directly where else you are applying, because I remember discussing how unnerving it was and trying to figure out what they’d read into the choices.</p>

<p>i wonder whether the SAT or the ACT, when reporting scores to colleges, also reports what other colleges have received your scores?</p>

<p>Are you crazy? You need fifteen colleges just to get five decent ones. If you want two or three reach schools. The student who applies to the five schools he/she “wants” is liable to be disappointed when they receive rejection/waitlist letters. The colleges are like banks, they never lose.</p>

<p>"You need fifteen colleges just to get five decent ones. "</p>

<p>You can only go to 1 college. Why apply to 15 to get 5 decent offers?</p>

<p>Add Amherst…</p>

<p>1,098 on the wait list</p>

<p>Stanford’s waitlist actually got smaller (~1500 to 998).</p>

<p>So- there are good reasons for applying to 15 to get 5 decent offers (FA pkgs - very important and vary greatly), and for only applying to 5 schools too - more targeted. If we could only know for sure if the schools know how many other apps a student put in, it would really help people make up their mind how they want to proceed. I think the mindset would be: if the colleges don’t know, apply to 10 -15 -whatever, but if they do, applying to less may get you more acceptances vs. waitlists? If you are truly matched as a likely admit to these schools. IDK. so confusing</p>

<p>Oh, and I really feel for all those on waitlists, it is a terrible purgatory - feels like hell on earth. what could be a happy time is clouded with worry. To all: Here is hoping it resolves soon with good news</p>

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<p>That’s also smaller than the last several years, no? Last year, Amherst waitlisted over 1200. </p>

<p>UPenn’s WL is supposedly down this year too.</p>

<p>I wonder why some waitlists are smaller this year.</p>

<p>10152229; I was waitlisted. What are your stats? Do you know about how many were waitlisted and how many spots will be offered? I spoke to the admin counselor and he would consider me but …???</p>

<p>How do you find out waitlist statistics for a school if they don’t publish them?</p>

<p>As a follow up to yesterday’s article by Jacques Steinberg explaining why colleges resort to a long waiting list, the New York Times published an op-ed piece by a graduating senior who is tired of waiting.</p>

<p>It’s a pretty good piece, and of course I sympathize with the student’s impatience.</p>

<p>But part of the problem in college admissions today is that too many kids look at hard work in school as valuable only insofar as it leads to the “reward” of getting into a competitive university. High school, as this student describes, as become a holding pattering, by which students defer happiness and joy, and instead “agonize” over their futures.</p>

<p>Here I quote from the student: “But the wait list also prolongs the holding pattern of teenage life. To many of us, rejection is a foreign concept, and colleges seem to think that our tender egos prefer a maybe to a flat-out no. Yes, getting wait-listed does soften the blow for some overachievers with flawless transcripts — the ones who agonize over College Confidential and other Web sites for college-bound students.”</p>

<p>This student, and many like them, care more about their transcripts than they do about learning. Learning for the sake of learning is de-emphasized in schools today. Parents, too, send signals that a “good college” is the reward for good grades in high school: “get good grades, honey, so you can get into Duke.”</p>

<p>Parents, teachers, administrators, and students would do better to focus on learning stuff in school, rather than focus on far-off rewards in some sort of academic afterlife. As this op-ed piece laments, students will have little control over which college accepts or rejects them–or puts them on the infernal waiting list.</p>

<p>No, the hardest part of College Admission is not the waiting. It’s the ability to focus on what is really important in life. Giving yourself over to some abstract vision of nirvana while in the present you neglect your mind, body, and soul–that’s the hard part.</p>

<p>Too many kids (and their parents) are willing to sell their souls to the Mephistopheles of College Admission.</p>

<p>Stop waiting, kids. Go out and live your lives. If you are by chance accepted to some competitive college, good for you. But if you are rejected, or worse–thrown into wait list limbo–walk away. Focus on learning. Focus on life. No one is forcing you wait.</p>

<p>Amen. Too many students apply willy-nilly without really considering whether a particular college fits them well. As an educational consultant, I would rather help a student do some really good thinking BEFORE applying, so as to cut down on the stress of dozens of applications, and to focus on 5 or 6 schools–any of which the student would feel excited about attending. </p>

<p>It’s all in finding the right fit!</p>