<p>it reads like ******** so adcoms who read boatloads of these every year will probably see through his inflated statements. if i was an adcom and i read "significant debater" i'm not going to give that any weight. his claims are overly vague... there is nothing specific there so that is going to make them wonder how accomplished he actually is.</p>
<p>Wow. Ok.</p>
<p>So yes, he did exaggerate. So what? ParkRunner this is NONE of your business. You wrote the word "friend." As a friend, I'd expect you to WANT your friend admitted. </p>
<p>The kid did embellish his app a little but then again, alot of people do it. Thus, college adcoms can probably tell but I don't think it matters much unless he is flat out LYING which he isn't. </p>
<p><em>sighs</em></p>
<p>As all of you know, the competition for colleges right now is pretty bad. It's not surprising that alot of kids exagerate. Some ppl were so bitter in this post. Someone wrote: "Just laugh when he gets his rejection letter." ***??? What kind of person writes that? "You're not perfect like me so you got rejected and now you'll be miserable for the rest of your life hahahhahahahhahah!!!!!!" Geez.</p>
<p>ParkRunner, that's adorable you're so perfect. However, please understand that the MAJORITY of students works real hard and did not discover the cure to cancer, or have 10,000 community hours, or speak 10 languages because they were born savants. The majority are hard working and as is human nature, if they have the chance to "increase" their chances they will.</p>
<p>Supposedly, this is a FRIEND right? Why would you tell on him? If he gets in, be happy. Hasn't this FRIEND worked with you for years? Wouldn't you rather him get in than some amazing student whom you don't know, and celebrate and laugh together?</p>
<p>ParkRunner, I don't know you, but chances are you're not a savant who speaks 10 languages, you didn't earn 10,000 community hours and you did not discover the cure to cancer. One day (if not already) you'll be involved in the college application process and just maybe, if based PURELY on academic achievements, you will be rejected. If you had the chance to make yourself sound better, I'm sure you would too.</p>
<p>MetdethGNR- that made no sense whatsoever. "Hasn't this FRIEND worked with you for years? Wouldn't you rather him get in than some amazing student whom you don't know, and celebrate and laugh together?" Okay? Explain to me how that works... Why doesn't everybody do that then? Some people actually have integrity...</p>
<p>"ParkRunner, I don't know you, but chances are you're not a savant who speaks 10 languages, you didn't earn 10,000 community hours and you did not discover the cure to cancer."</p>
<p>He never said he was perfect and one doesn't have to do those things to get into college. You are arguing that it is necessary to cheat in order to gain acceptance... Um, most people don't need to cheat to get in. Maybe you do, but not most.</p>
<p>"If you had the chance to make yourself sound better, I'm sure you would too."</p>
<p>What are you talking about? He does have the chance... He is, I am assuming, appying to college next year as well. Your post doesn't make any sense. Too much death metal music maybe..</p>
<p>Parkrunner, I remember another one of your threads when you were wondering whether a debate title your friend won would look better than one of your accomplishments on an application. Why this intense, secret competiton? If his accomplishments and attitude bother you, then just stay away and do your best to focus on yourself. </p>
<p>His resume sounds flimsy. I'm sure his interviewers will ask for more specifics, in which case he'll have a hard time explaining just what makes his babysitting "business" different from regular babysitting. The National Spanish Exam isn't as prestigious as your friend makes it out to be, and while it's commendable that he did well, admissions officers probably read the same thing on thousands of other applications.</p>
<p>You could warn your friend that his resume is flaky and that he's being dishonest. You could stress how the vagueness will tip adcoms off and make them question his accomplishments. But don't, for your own sake and for friendship's sake, get obsessive, which is what you sound like right now. Focus on yourself, and if you think what he's doing is a disgusting practice, then don't do it yourself.</p>
<p>I'm sorry if you midunderstood me but no, I don't think cheating is necessary to get acceptance. However, the competition is so bad right now that if a FRIEND of yours EXAGERATES (doesn't lie) I really don't see what's the problem.</p>
<p>This is not a question of integrity. It's a question of this-is-not-your-business.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this student is not CHEATING. He is simply exagerating. If it works for him, that's a tribute to his creativity. </p>
<p>And again, I really don't understand ParkRunner's position of "someone better qualified can get rejected". Dude, can you imagine a friend like that? It's like: "Hey Joseph, you're a great kid but you're not Brown material so I think you should just go to the local community college and let a better kid take the spot in Brown." What a supportive friend! I'm not saying that you should support friends whatever they do, but something as small as this really shouldn't preocuppy you.</p>
<p>I agree with you in terms of how competitive it is and I also agree with you in that this post manifests a bizarre quality that I don't think I want in my friends; BUT, to call this "exaggerating" is an understatement. You cannot put a 7th grade test score on a high school app. and not specifity that its from 7th grade; it's called lying by omission and its unethical.</p>
<p>yeah but welcome to the world of resume drafting... </p>
<p>you did what? put papers into folders? you mean you "coordinated record detention facilities"</p>
<p>hm? you answered phone calls? no no no.. you mean you "operated as primary liason to prospective clients"</p>
<p>huh? you sat in a chair and watched meetings? nahh, you "served as internal operations oversight manager"</p>
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<p>Why? Because I actually have some Ethics as opposed to the majority here saying stuff like "Karma will catch up"</p>
<p>Are you people retarded? Just because "most people exaggerate" doesn't mean you have to do it yourself to get admitted. Lying and exaggerating is worthless -- when you're applying for a job, embellishing is only going to hurt you when people find you aren't living up to your resume. Most embellishments can be seen through anyway! The stuff you posted before always raises many red flags and is obviously built-on. Just be honest.</p>
<p>I have a feeling that the application Parkrunner posted is his own, not his friend's. I also have a feeling that, by doing this, Parkrunner is trying to get everyone's opinions on whether he's being dishonorable in blowing his achievements beyond proportion , and perhaps have his guilt assuaged in the process. Am I right? Or am I right?</p>
<p>^ I think so, too.</p>
<p>but if he is telling the truth, he should rat the kid out, the end.</p>
<p>wow, who brought this thread back to life?</p>
<p>logent did! :)</p>
<p>You have nothing to worry about. Even if admission officers don't catch on to the exaggeration, this kid still doesn't look like a gem. It's not like he's claiming that he founded a hospital in Africa or cured cancer. Besides, the vague way the resume is written and the very awkward number format doesn't strike me as particularly professional or amazing. He's not doing himself any favors here. I'd say your only obligation here is to make sure your friend knows all about his community college options.</p>
<p>just like elsijfdl said...welcome to the world of resume drafting. This isn't an ethical issue... as ou'll see that when you guys get to college your schools with OFFER resume workshops where they TEACH you to do this stuff. It's called selling yourself...the kid is not lying he is just making boring/typical ECs sound better than they are by re-wording them. If this was unethical why would colleges teach you this? </p>
<p>elsijfdl's examples are perfect...</p>
<p>other funny ones ive seen:</p>
<p>you re-organized a filing cabinet? you mean you reengineered the data repository system.</p>
<p>Unless your Bill Gates, there is no way you start your own business before going off to college, if you do, its probably a **** company.</p>
<p>metsman90...that's definitely not true. I personally know a few people in my class at Wharton who started very good businesses while in h.s. One guy for example actually ended up selling his company for a few million freshman year. Another guy just hired someone to oversee the day to day work of his venture while he was away at school. He pulls in a good 350k per year personally.</p>
<p>if college adcoms see “babysitting businesss” and “printing business” on the application, what will they think? </p>
<p>how much money do you suppose they think he makes?</p>
<p>I’m posting [something</a> random](<a href=“http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/resume]something”>Text / Honest Resume), that’s loosely related to the topic. Because it’s what I do.</p>
<p>Guys, adcoms are not stupid-they know EXACTLY how to interpret what is stated. If in our eyes it looks odd and misleading, imagine how quickly a professional adcom who has seen thousands of applications will recognize the lies there..</p>