<p>lol, it is a little random…but it seems like to be a sure bet to get into at least one Ivy you need upper 2200s…so i chose 2270 instead of 2280 lol. Too many people get rejected with low 2200s for that too seem like a cut-off. A kid with high 2200s to not get into at least 1 Ivy would be a puzzle. Of course, this kinda applies mainly to US kids…who knows with us Canadians.</p>
<p>But yea, alam1, NYU seems great, but no FA for me. i can afford this stuff, barely, but i have a younger bro too, so yea…</p>
<p>I totally agree. like I would NEVER go to UofToronto. like, seriously, come on…and I thought UT-Austin was bad with the huge class sizes. It’s got the whole commuter uni. feeling, and there’s no school spirit (comes with having close dorms, smaller school or just straight up sports school, etc.). I get the impression that ppl go there because of its rep. or because they live near and can commute. </p>
<p>Even Emory, not an Ivy, but i’d take it over UT or McGill anyday. and btw alam1, next year, if i seriously consider emory can you help me out with my app.?</p>
<p>“even Emory…” lol thanks, especially for the “even” part. </p>
<p>I’m going to try to get fellow Canadians out of the Ivy obsession craze… did you know that Rutgers (ranked relatively low at 66th) was offered a spot on the Ivy League but it declined… if it had accepted, it would be way more talked about around the world. But it still is as good (or as mediocre) of a school now as it would have been if it had been an “Ivy”. Random trivia. </p>
<p>Anyways, you all should apply to Penn… I think its need blind specifically to Canadians. Anyways, its almost midnight. I’m sleepy. Good Night.</p>
<p>The main appeal with ivy is the whole need blind. A lot of Canadians cannot pay through the 4 US years when we can get a comparable education through UofT or Queens with a quarter of the price…</p>
<p>I did not apply to ANY Ivy Leagues because I researched them and did not like them. I did not need financial aid so I guess I had options.</p>
<p>darksouls, what do you mean comparable education… I just pointed out a while ago that the US and Canadian education system is completely different. In top privates in the US, it is more about a college experience, small class sizes, dorm culture, frats… that’s a very different education experience than Queens/ U of T. Nothing comparable about that. Queens/ U of T are good in their own right and should be campared to top publics in the US because they are similar in the way of teaching.</p>
<p>I meant comparable to the public universities in terms of teaching. I know top privates are vastly different than says UofT or Queens but attending a top private uni wasn’t worth a quarter million to me when I still plan on going to grad school…</p>
<p>That being said, I applied to Brown not asking for FA and I would’ve done so for some others but I didn’t have the time to write the essays. I just did the need-blind applications first.</p>
<p>^^darksoulz, you applied not asking for FA? Realistically, if you got in, would you attend? Say if Brown was the only one that accepted you out of all the states schools (hypothetically speaking of course, you’d probably get in a lot more xDD)</p>
<p>Do you guys know if there are stats available for the proportion of students applying asking for FA/not asking for FA and how many of them get in?</p>
<p>i have yet to find such stats. but i can guarantee u that the stats for canadians applying and asking for fa for any top us school thats not need-blind (brown, stanford, jhu, etc) are bleak. very bleak.</p>
<p>think about it, brown accepts around 20-MAX 30 canadians each year and ALOT if not the vast majority of canadians applying to non-need blind us schools dont apply for FA (like darksoulz). i didnt apply for FA at stanford, jhu or brown cuz i no it’d be impossible for almost any canadian to get in while asking for fa…</p>
<p>I think if you’re looking at top schools, not needing FA as an international puts you on the same step as all the other great applicants. If you are requesting FA at need blind schools, you’re on the same step as others but if the school is not need blind, the competition is very, very tight.</p>
<p>In short:</p>
<p>FA kid ----> Need Blind = Equal to US Domestic Students
FA kid ----> Not Need Blind = Extremely Competitive
Non-FA kid ----> Need Blind = Equal to US Domestic Students
Non-FA kid ----> Not Need Blind = Equal to US Domestic Students</p>
<p>Before I applied, I called something like 25-30 US private schools and almost all of them say that if you do not need aid as an international, you will NOT have a disadvantage in the process. In some cases (like at LACs like Grinnell which get only 15-20 Canadians applying per year)it is actually an advantage being a full paying Canadian… at other schools like U. of Chicago, it is neither advantage nor disadvantage since so many internationals apply… but if you need aid, your chances do significantly go down… and that, sadly, is a matter of fact. In fact, some schools like Wesleyan, Chicago as well as most others do not even allow internationals who need aid to apply under their Early Decision programs because they want to evaluate the entire international applicant pool in order to select the very few applicants to whom they will give aid. </p>
<p>Look at the above website… info may be a bit outdated but it provides good information for international students such as international acceptance rates to certain schools. For example:</p>
<p>FOR MIT:
For fall 2008: 3081 international students applied, 121 were accepted, 98 enrolled. Students can start in fall.</p>
<p>Thats an acceptance rate of 4 % which is lower than the overall acceptance rate of MIT. </p>
<p>In that website, some schools provide their international acceptance rates whereas some don’t (also the number of internationals receiving aid is sometimes included) </p>
<p>According to the website, JHU has international acceptance rate of 12.6 % but remember that if you don’t need aid, the acceptance rate is probably 20% or so and if you need aid, it might be as low as 7% or 8%. Simply put, competition is tough.</p>
<p>alam1, yea the main reason for the Ivy-craze is the need blind aspect. personally, i see beyond the ivys. i mean, med school is the goal, so i wanna keep options open (perhaps a not as highly ranked school to boost the 'ol GPA or just somewhere in the south with warm weather…Rice, Emory, Duke anyone? lol and Cornell is sick, lower Ivy, but oh well, guess that means less competition, but i still get the Ivy league affiliation lol).</p>
<p>I want to apply everywhere I feel like i’d do well at/enjoy and if the decisions are in my favour, then i have the awesome burden of making a tough decision. If I feel that FA affects my chances, then i will apply no FA.</p>
<p>it says that there are 67 canadians in all 4 years of undergrad at yale. so thats like around 20 per year factoring in the 70% yield rate.</p>
<p>and WOW congrats on the likely man. yale has always always been my dream school. guess thats one less spot for me:(
can u plz post some of ur stats so i can get a general idea of where i’m at in terms of the canadian applicant pool? that would be so great. thanks :D</p>
<p>His stats are posted here somewhere on the Canadian forum. I don’t think any of the schools have quotas for the # of Canadians (except MIT). It just usually happens to be around 20-30…</p>