"Yale football, hockey players arrested" - MSNBC

<p>Quarterback, tailback allegedly fought with 3 hockey team members</p>

<p>NEW HAVEN, Conn. - Yale’s starting quarterback and tailback and three members of the hockey team were arrested after a fight outside a downtown specialty market, police said.</p>

<p>Police say a window at the Gourmet Heaven on Broadway was broken during the scuffle early Sunday morning....</p>

<p><a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15143236/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15143236/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I say we just eliminate sports entirely....</p>

<p>Nothing to fear for Eli rooters, however:</p>

<p>"Both football players are expected to play when Yale visits Dartmouth on Saturday."</p>

<p>... and from the Los Angeles Times this afternoon:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/football/wire/sns-ap-fbc-yale-arrests,1,7051932.story?coll=sns-ap-collegefb-headlines%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/football/wire/sns-ap-fbc-yale-arrests,1,7051932.story?coll=sns-ap-collegefb-headlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Is Yale's and Harvard's athletes competing for "Most Arrest" or something?</p>

<p>Both trail the Cincinnati Bengals.</p>

<p>Harvard and the Bengals both suspended transgressors, however, While the Yale bad-boys will be allowed to play this Saturday against Dartmouth. I suspect that if there is to be a 1-game suspension, at least, it will be the following week against non-league foe Lehigh, assuring that the top jocks are all on board against Penn the weekend after.</p>

<p>even tim murphy waited a week to suspend his players for a similar incident</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513358%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513358&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>and luckily O'hagan, and the other suspended will luckily be back right in time for the meat of the season.</p>

<p>Huh? He didn't "wait a week" ... what are you talking about? He suspended them for the first game after the offense occurred.</p>

<p>And O'Hagen's "offense" did not involve an arrest or even the slightest hint of the same, so you are making a highly improper comparison.</p>

<p>It still took a few days, and it wasn't even fooball season. AND a suspension against Holy Cross is a pittance compared to an Ivy foe. </p>

<p>my comparison was that both coaches are probably being a little opportunistic when it comes to the suspensions.</p>

<p>Suspending your captain and best defensive player for the season immediately, even though the charges against him are dropped, and suspending a senior QB and the Ivy's leading passer for half the season for an unnamed "private" offense are hardly what I'd call "opportunistic" moves, bulldog.</p>

<p>Base upon newspaper reports, locally and nationally, how does anyone know what really happened?</p>

<p>The one thing we know for sure is that McLeod ran for 198 yards, caught a pass for 25 yards, and scored two touchdowns, while Polhemus passed for 138 yards and ran for 33 more, in Yale's 26-14 victory over Dartmouth today. Between them, they accounted for 369 of Yale's 410 total yards. I don't think we'll be seeing any suspensions with that kind of performance.</p>

<p>That's a pretty good yield rate! Between them, they may just save the coach's job - if he can keep them on the field.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=33181%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=33181&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=32363%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=32363&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Could this be "situational morality"? Here's a BC player who just got suspended indefinitely for being involved in a fight outside a nightspot - no waiting for a 6-month investigation, either. </p>

<p>Of course the Yalies are stars and this guy was a kicker whose performance has been mediocre. Wonder if this will free up his scholarship slot!</p>

<p><a href="http://sports.bostonherald.com/college/football/view.bg?articleid=161301%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://sports.bostonherald.com/college/football/view.bg?articleid=161301&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>According to the BC coach, whether he was the instigator or not, getting involved in a street fight constituted "conduct unbecoming to a BC football player."</p>

<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/football/articles/2006/10/07/bc_suspends_kicker_ohliger/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/football/articles/2006/10/07/bc_suspends_kicker_ohliger/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>leave it to byerly to spin the suspsension of half a dozen harvard football players into a positive thing.</p>

<p>And I give full credit to the BC coach for taking positive action and not dithering.
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The official line on the Yale situation is beginning to emerge. </p>

<p>From the Hartford Courant: "McLeod and Polhemus were among five Yale athletes arrested after a shoving match, apparently caused by a misunderstanding, resulted in some damage to a downtown New Haven deli. They have a court date Friday."</p>

<p>Scottie,</p>

<p>While the actions underlying the suspensions obviously are not positive, the suspensions themselves are. Too often athletes, particularly star athletes, feel that they are "above the law." And too often they are, in fact, "above the law." It will be interesting to see where Yale comes out.</p>

<p>This is disturbing to know that there could be felons in your classrooms.</p>

<p>they weren't charged with felonies</p>

<p>Miscreants, not felons. Breaking the storewindow, apparently was not intentional, but due to a "misunderstanding."</p>

<p>Again, Mr. Byerly injures the good name of his university by trolling through the headlines for negative incidents at other institutions. I go to Yale, and I actually saw this fight. No hockey players were suspended because they didn't start anything. They acted only in self-defense. Something NOT stated by MSNBC is that of the five people arrested, only one actually deserved it. The other four were either (A) totally uninvolved bystanders or (B) trying to break the fight up. The police officers were mostly egging the kids on, and I feel that they used excessive force. </p>

<p>Byerly, why do you do this sort of thing? Do you really need to attack others in order to assert your superiority? I am embarrassed for you.</p>