Yale's lenient policies regarding alcohol and hazing

<p>Right now, Yale is reexamining its traditionally liberal alcohol policies.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=28160%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=28160&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>After the stark contrast between Harvard and Yale's alcohol policies became clear at the past Harvard Yale football game, many asked if Yale was doing the right thing. In general, Yale treats alcohol as a health issue, not a discipline issue. Freshman advisors do not prohibit freshman from having alcohol in their rooms (in fact, many freshmen have loads of empty alcohol bottles on their fireplace mantles). Students that have to go to University Health Services generally do not face parental notification. Yale often funnels money to college suites to throw parties where alcohol is abundant. The infamous "Liquor Treats" halloween party involves Yale funding various shots in residential college rooms, and students going from room to room to drink. Some say there are benefits to this policy-- however, Yale may face liability issues if something goes wrong.</p>

<p>Another issue is public hazing. Yale suprisingly has more instances of public hazing than any other school. At issue are "tap nights" for a capella groups and senior societies, along with fraternity, sorority, and sports team antics.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=11968%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=11968&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=2189%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=2189&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=12092%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=12092&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Seeing students forced to drink, paraded around blindfolded, and being made to dress in drag in public is not uncommon at Yale. In fact, the activity occurs in full view of Yale Police, who generally do nothing.</p>

<p>Fraternities also have public stunts. ADPhi forces its drunk pledges to return punts nude on Old Campus (in front of Yale Police) and DKE makes its pledges walk around all week without showering (with freshman advisors in full knowledge). </p>

<p>Contrast this to the University of Georgia, where students were fined and scolded for blindfolding students in an initiation:
<a href="http://www.redandblack.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2000/11/08/3b7c26908b209?in_archive=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.redandblack.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2000/11/08/3b7c26908b209?in_archive=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>At Yale, public blindfolding is common and openly accepted.</p>

<p>It will be interesting to see if and why Yale will ever change its traditions regarding hazing and alcohol.</p>

<p>Hazing is not significant at Yale. Re alcohol, it's not Bob Jones, where I suspect you attend. i know plenty of people who went to Yale, and nobody has ever mentioned this as a problem,</p>

<p>Mensa, what are you talking about? I agree with Yale's policies re both alcohol and hazing, I was just posting what went on.</p>

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Mensa, what are you talking about? I agree with Yale's policies re both alcohol and hazing, I was just posting what went on

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<p>Let me tell you something... You gotta be a lot smarter than you are to fool Mensa.</p>

<p>Ok, if you want to doubt me, that's fine, I'm just a bored Yale senior trying to help people out, see my other posts</p>

<p>Yeah, Mensa is right... this guy ain't a Yale student.</p>

<p>Oh, and most of what he said regarding "hazing" wasn't in the links he provided. Just another Harvard wanker, wishing there was something, anything, going on at his own campus.</p>

<p>He was pretty accurate about the drinking scene though, and as far as I know (I am only a freshman), mild hazing like what he describes (mild in my book means no physical violence to the initiates) does go on for some a cappella, sports team, and secret society initiations.</p>

<p>I got hazed pretty bad in the tomb during the initiation for being a Bonesman.</p>

<p>I am not a student at Yale but instead a prospecitive who happened to have an official this fall. The hazing was not all that bad. The entire freshman squad of the swimteam ran around and had to sing a backstreet boys song then strip down to the swim suit, all choreographed and then get two girls to kiss.
The alcohol was another thing. I was rather lucky because the hosts I had got in trouble with their coaches about 2 weeks before for too much prospective drinking so we were banned. I did see a number of prospectives pushed into doing Keg stands and the like. The alcohol was not forced upon people but it is definitely prevalent. The policy seems rather lenient because what is going on is well known and just overlooked.</p>

<p>sure you did bonesman, cuz if you really were in skull and bones you would go talking about it everywhere.
heres a post from a few weeks ago by you: "I want to learn about the Skull and Bones Super Elite Secrect Society (it is my ultimate dream to join such organization) for my long-term research project I'm doing on it. "</p>

<p>and now you claim your in it. yea, right.</p>

<p>Yeah dude I finally got it man! Skull and bones is soooo cooool!</p>

<p>You dont go to Yale yet, you wanted to go see it during the summer. And just to tell you they dont tap until spring time. Try again</p>

<p>Yale does have a liberal alcohol policy, but hazing is not out of control here.</p>

<p>I think it may seem like the hosts push alcohol on the prospective students because they just want them to have a good time. I know my host really wanted me to have fun (he suceeded), and he offered me alcohol and I accepted because I do drink... I think he wanted to show that Yalies can have fun.</p>

<p>Ok because no one else has said it and it's really bothering me...I think bonesman is perhaps (blatantly) joking about being inducted into a secret society. Bonesman is ***cing around with the person who is taking him seriously in what I might say is a humorous manner. He is not actually a bonesman.</p>

<p>he thinks otherwise, and he thinks other believe him. i hate bs'ers they annoy me more then anyone else. plus he went back to all of his old posts and to others and fixed em to try and say he got in cuz of skull and bones, and that he was part of the initiation etc. thats a little too much effort for a joke.</p>

<p>I am a Bonesman, my new name is Magog, got down at the tomb, yo. Don't believe me, just ask my buddy Dubya, he'll be throwin' it up 4 da bonz. Word... (ps anyone who took me seriously shouldn't be at a Yale Forum, look to the nearest tech school bigdufist)</p>

<p>......while i understand you are making valiant attempts at being funny, the comedy forum is on another website :p</p>

<p>funny bonehead, dont disrespect an organization you dont know the first thing about. dont mock people in it or mock about it (if you go to yale and do this you wont have friends, and you will be a world of hurt). take a look at my location within CT notice how close I am to Yale, and the tomb. trust me if you knew the first thing about this stuff you wouldnt run your mouth.</p>