1 dead, 11 shot at Ohio fraternity house

<p>Police:</a> 1 dead, 11 shot at Ohio fraternity house - USATODAY.com</p>

<p>CNN mentioned it on air as Breaking News, indicating “no direct harm to the university campus.” The incident occurred at an off-campus fraternity house and is near the Youngstown campus.</p>

<p>I live about ten miles from campus, and will be taking dual enrollment there next year (my senior year in high school). Horrible tragedy this morning. They have released the name of the deceased to the public. He was a senior. A press conference is being broadcast now on the local station. Youngstown police are leading the investigation, and additional police are being put on campus, even though administrators said there appears to be no threat to the campus. Police are working on a list of suspects now. The governor has called the university president to express condolences and to offer assistance in any way possible.</p>

<p>There was an exchange of gunfire so more than one gun. This was a minority fraternity, and apparently NOT an official frat house sanctioned by the national fraternity, but rather a house where many of the frat brothers lives together. There was a party, an argument ensued. There were over 50 people present in the house at the time.</p>

<p>@sunnyflorida
And the fact that it is a minority fraternity is important because…???</p>

<p>This is one of the reasons why my parents (and countless others) are scared for their children to go away for school.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, the party was off-campus, so the university can’t have much control over it. The same thing happened at an off-campus party at Seton Hall University, which resulted in a young woman murdered.</p>

<p>My condolences to the family and friends of those passed and injured.</p>

<p>@Triguena</p>

<p>The reason that noting it was a minority fraternity might be of interest is because minority frats are often not governed by any kind of national chapter or even the Greek system on campus - they often don’t really have to answer to anyone. It may be that the frat in question was an unofficial frat, so it wouldn’t (well, shouldn’t) reflect on those frats that are governed by their nationals or the official Greek system on campus.</p>

<p>@piedpilko </p>

<p>Well, if so, can you list points of why you disagree?</p>

<p>The angle I was trying to get at was with safety. Situations like this have even hit close to home for my school community where a young woman was murdered while at a teen club with HORRID security, in one of the worse areas of NYC at night.</p>

<p>I don’t think that being a “minority” frat is relevant at all.
Violence on or off campus has nothing to do with being sanctioned by a national chapter or not.</p>

<p>Unfortunately college age people are impulsive- may use substances and may have access to weapons, a dangerous combination.</p>

<p>But while some parents may have a great deal of anxiety surrounding their adult children attending college, I daresay that they would have a great deal of anxiety over them living on their own & working.</p>

<p>@RoxSox–what is your source for the assertion that “minority frats are often not governed by any kind of national chapter or even the Greek system on campus - they often don’t really have to answer to anyone.” ? Not my understanding of any minority frat/sorority that I am familiar with. Even if we assume that this statement is correct it still doesn’t speak to the underlying issue.</p>

<p>Here’s the deal–a horrific incident occured in an off campus house. It was a fraternity house but could have been at any house. I see no reason for noting that it was a minority fraternity other than to subtly play into a view that either a) it’s a minority situation so parents of non-minority students can breathe a sigh of relief or b) it’s an extension of violence in minority neighborhoods.</p>

<p>Either way, whether the frat was minority or not is completely irrelevant to the story.</p>

<p>Triguena - I didn’t read it that way. I think the fact it’s a minority fraternity, shooting maybe racially motivated, and it would be relevant to the story. I didn’t take it that sunnyflorida meant it as non-minority parents should be relieved.</p>

<p>This is a tragedy. My thoughts are with the family and friends of those students.</p>

<p>From MSNBC:</p>

<p>"Members of the university-sanctioned Omega Psi Phi fraternity lived at the house, YSU spokesman Ron Cole said.</p>

<p>Omega Psi Phi doesn’t own the house, said Christopher Cooper, a legal officer for the fraternity."</p>

<p>So - while I’m not sure why this point is that relevant - for those that have mentioned it - it was at an off-campus fraternity house - but it is a university sanctioned frat. Seems like there was a dispute at a party - 2 men left and then returned later - and randomly opened fire.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41447043/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/[/url]”>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41447043/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also the fraternity is certainly AA but seems to be a national level. Bill Cosby and Michael Jordan seems to be one of the famous Alumnae.</p>

<p>[The</a> Official Website of Omega Psi Phi - Famous Omegas](<a href=“http://www.oppf.org/famous_omegas.asp]The”>http://www.oppf.org/famous_omegas.asp)</p>

<p>Omega Psi Phi indeed has many distinguished alums. In addition to Cosby and Jordan you can add Count Basie, Langston Hughes, Jesse Jackson, Ronald McNair, Vernon Jordan, Benjamin Hooks and many, many more. The local chapter of this national fraternity has existed at Youngstown State for 60 years.</p>

<p>It appears, on preliminary investigation, that the two suspects were local residents who were at the party but were asked to leave. They returned and randomly shot up the place. Readers should ask themselves if the fact all parties involved seem to be African American makes them consider the story differently than if all were of European descent.</p>

<p>To be frank, I detest stereotypes and am angry at myself when I see them rising to my own mind (I’m an Asian who grew up in an African American culture, by the way – if this means anything)</p>

<p>Get over yourselves. There is nothing wrong with noting that it was an AA or minority fraternity any more than if it were the French language house!</p>

<p>I’m not saying there’s anything inherently wrong with noting that it was a black fraternity. I understand PC can get carried away. This is just a tragic teaching moment on more than one front, that’s all</p>

<p>Reminds me of the Virginia Tech massacre 3 yrs back…</p>

<p>None of the news articles I read about the incident felt it was necessary to mention that it was a minority frat- I wonder why those here do.</p>

<p>Can we focus on the fact that this was a “frat house” not sponsored or monitored by the frat or the university? This is not an isolated thing and many frats at many colleges have them so that it can be an “off campus” party so that alcohol may be served. Dollars to donuts that if this were an on campus party local residents would not show up etc, and also Id like to know if anyone has any evidence of incidents alcohol related or violent being more prevalent at the off campus frats? This is in my opinion the result of the 21 drinking law and I think its time for the country to revisit it.</p>