1 rejection in the pocket, how many will follow???

<p>"I understand what you mean. However, compared to some of Deference's other choices (Colgate, Bowdoin), Michigan and Berkeley in particular are stars. </p>

<p>And remember cupcake, you might not have known, but employers might. "</p>

<p>I doubt that employers abroad would have heard of most of the schools on Deference's list. While all of the colleges he lists are excellent, many are barely known in the US particularly outside of their regions in the US.</p>

<p>I doubt that most of those colleges will give Deference the leg up he wants in the job market, particularly if he doesn't plan to be working in the US. Even in the US, depending on what stat a person is job hunting in, employers may be less impressed by excellent colleges like U Mich, Berkeley, Colgate and Bowdoin than the second tier public university in the city or state where the employers' company is located. I know that's the case in the city where I live, which, incidentally, is in a major state.</p>

<p>Well, I was trying to make a comparison to some of the less-reknowned institutions on the list. All are amazing schools, but some aren't known outside of their areas.</p>

<p>Northstarmom, in order to further outline your point, I give you this anecdote: My friend is a U Penn grad. In California, he finds that his degree gets overlooked for UCLA and Berkeley grads because people think Penn is either: a state school or not as good as the top UCs.</p>

<p>fourth time? yeah, definitely take a new SAT II. i'm also retaking SAT IIs...Chem and Math IIC...ehh kinda screwed up in December.
i think that CR and writing scores in the mid-600s or somewhere there are pretty respectable considering the fact that you and me, e.g., aren't native speakers. for me english is just one of the three foreign languages I have to learn at school, so i guess it is quite unrealistic to expect that i would be able to pull off straight 800s on the SAT I. it would be really unfair to compare us to some applicants from the UK, Australia, Canada etc.
besides, I even felt kinda proud of myself when i read my score report, and it said...i quote...''for college-bound seniors in the class of 2005, the average critical reading score was 508...'' how pathetic is that..</p>

<p>Hey Deference! Firstly, I would say that there are pretty good Dutch universities. I would strongly recommend University College Utrecht and Roosevelt Academy. I am also an International Student myself and have explored lots of study-abroad options. UCU and RA are two schools that are modeled after the liberal-arts colleges in the States and they seem to be great schools! In fact, I have considered those colleges too.</p>

<p>My SAT I score isnt particularly fantastic either: 580CR, 780M, 580W. My SAT II scores are 790 MII, 770 Chem, 760 Phy and I am admitted into Kenyon. It's relatively unheard of, especially outside the States. But hey, it offers me what I want: great academics, great profs accessibility, gorgeous and majestic campus and friendly students. What more can I asked for! Thus I would say do apply to schools that "fits" you instead of just applying for prestige. I mean Berkeley is well-known in my home country but then many people have said that the undergrad in Berkeley is over-rated with large lectures and such. I had an interview with the Kenyon's Dean of Admissions and after that session, I was really positive that Kenyon is the school I want to be spending the next four years of my life.</p>

<p>You should definitely consider universities in Asia if you want to do Asian studies. The National University of Singapore offers great and top-notched academics (Yes... it's ranked even higher than Cornell if all you care is to look at ranks). The President there graduated from Harvard and they managed to attract many top-notched faculty away from the States (especially in the field of Biomedical Sciences). And NUS offers a need-blind admissions policy. There's such a thing called the tuition grant that is awarded to all students who request for it (But the only drawback is that you have to work in Singapore for three years after graduation). So that makes it really affordable. Tuition is only USD 3000-4000 per annum after the grant.</p>

<p>I hope that helps and I wish you all the best in your college admissions!</p>

<p>I don't like UCU for being too small...
and I am not talking about Williams, Vassar, Amherst small, with student bodies of 1500... UCU just got 400 students...</p>