10th Grader and Ivies and Top Schools

<p>I've gotten around 2 Cs during high school and a bunch of Bs, and I got into Wharton...You just have to take the hardest classes possible, so take AB junior year and BC senior year..and play year round sports and excel at them too, that would help</p>

<p>Look, this time of year there's a lot of dreamers present. The have adcoms coming to their school who let them know they look at the whole person (hehe, snicker, snicker). Then they reject every whole person who is unhooked and has below average stats. Therir rankings just keep going up. There was a huge leap in average SAT scores at top schools this year for example. Will Stanford let HY or P get too far ahead? Of course not, they have marketing departments. They know how much going up in rankings increases alumni donations. They wanyt 11% blacks, 8% hispanics, 2 % American Indians. Somehow those numbers stay constant. They take 45% of legacies (only 25% at Stanford), again constant year over year. The wealthy keep gaining ground at top schools. Again, the big issue is how many totally qualified kids don't get in, not that there's a surprising number of underqualified kids (based on stats) who do. You'll have to comb an ivy campus to find a 3.5/2150 who hasn't cured cancer but got in. And keep in mind the surprises. Many kids who have families who donated buildings and chairs have no reason to let you know their success involved some elements that may not be evident.</p>

<p>And Flippy, he's probabl;y not a dick, although he's nasty, just a junior with a 3.5 who's worked really hard only to discover it won't fly. I don't take this lightly, so many kids want to believe. There are still so many parents who don't understand how different things are now and encourage kids by telling them they go into Harvard with a 3.5 from podunk. If you folloe these boards, reality sets in quickly in December after the ED/EA round. The Havard wannabees see the really bright side of Emory......</p>

<p>So sad Jas, your examples are just sorry. When you see the word legacy, begin to imagine the big bucks that may well be behind it. What I want to see is just a top 10%er, no legacy, not rich, famous or an athlete, president of nothing beyond anything in their class or state, goes to a slightly above average private, who got into HYP.</p>

<p>No, I agree with suze AND you seemed like a dick. Not "because".
Lol, it turns out that you really are a dick-like person and suze IS right.</p>

<p>And I also think you got owned several times now, so please just take it like a non-dick and leave.</p>

<p>And Jason, that kid with a 3.7 got a 2370 on the SATs, 800/790/780/770/750/730/720 on SAT II's, AND HE WAS IN USAMO. You have to find better examples than that because that guy blows kids out of the water, including the topic creator (so you didn't really prove anything).</p>

<p>did you just look over NathanK or my friend who got into standford with those stats, and im sure hes unhooked and not a legacy (immigrant family).</p>

<p>if you look around this board you will find people who have gotten in without being hooked or being a legacy.</p>

<p>To say that not one person with a little low GPA, unhooked and not a legacy, will get into a top 5 school is idiotic.</p>

<p>^Well maybe if the essays moved them to tears and the intervew amazingly fantastic.</p>

<p>If not, then tell me why a school would want someone who will not benefit them in any way.</p>

<p>You're right Jason, but I'm willing to bet just about anything that "you're friend" with the 3.5 doesn't have a hope in H**l!!@!</p>

<p>huh? my friend ALREADY got into stanford RD after being rejected EA. He had a 4.5/5 weighted GPA, which taken with his rank, is not good. And he only had a 2100 SAT's and was your typical asian applicant and got in.</p>

<p>You do occassionally see a student with a what would appear to be below standard stats get in. When you dig further, there is usually something that stood out. The real question is "what are the odds?" If you want to spend your time and application dollars chasing a 1 in 20,000 shot, be my guest. Look at all of the applicants that got into Harvard and Yale, then look at those waitlisted and rejected, then tell me which GPA and SAT you would prefer to have.</p>

<p>"Too many B's"</p>

<p>HE has like TWO b's -_-"</p>

<p>CAN SOMEONE ACTUALLY CHANCE ME??? for all the schools????</p>

<p>If you were a junior right now, you'd have very little chance at the top schools. But you have one more year. Aim for 2300 on your SAT (I was getting around your range as a sophomore and now i'm close to 2300)....make one final push to get your grades up....and try getting involved in research (that always helps)...or if research is not your thing, then follow what your passion is...so you can write a great personal essay and stand out...</p>

<p>Advice: Applying early to Cornell solely because of the acceptance rate (over 40%, I believe) I one of the BIGGEST mistakes you can make.</p>

<p>1) If you like Cornell, then good, apply their Early Decision, but remember, applying early means you're obligated to go, meaning you have no reason to apply to so many schools. Also, if you apply to many, you increase the amount that you're not going to go to, meaning for the one's you're accepted to you're taking up spots for people who would have really gone. Yield rates get lower, so colleges are more careful in their acceptance rates, meaning kids apply to more and more schools as a result of these lower rates. It's a vicous cycle, don't perpetuate it.</p>

<p>2) What if you get into a school you like more than Cornell, like Stanford (hypothetically speaking, I don't know what you like), but get into Cornell? Now you have no choice but to go.</p>

<p>ED just because of acceptance rates is an incredibly bad idea, especially when you apply to a lot of other schools. You're making a commitment to one school, so you have to be sure you actually like the school and it needs to be your top choice. Apply early to Cornell if you want to go there, as in ED you have no choice if you're accepted, don't apply ED for the acceptance rates.</p>

<p>If you get your SATs above 2150-2200 and your GPA above 3.8, maybe. As your stats are now . . . (especially predicted SAT, only around 2050 median predicted)</p>

<p>Harvard big reach
Princeton big reach
Stanford big reach
Brown big reach
U Penn- Wharton reach/big reach
University of Florida- Backup (yeah, probably safe match)
University of Miami-Backup (also probably a good safe match)</p>

<p>Really not sure about the others.</p>

<p>Can anyone chance each college??? Thanks.</p>

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