15% Increase in Freshman Applications

<p>Applications</a> to Northeastern surge - The Boston Globe</p>

<p>I cannot imagine what the admissions office is going through given the vagaries of yield. It will be interesting to see what happens in March and what the stats will be for enrolled students in September. </p>

<p>from The Boston Globe:</p>

<p>Northeastern University, once a commuter school accepting nearly all Bostonians who applied, received more applications this year than any other major private college in the area, and perhaps even the nation — fueled by a big increase in international students.</p>

<p>A record high of nearly 43,000 hopefuls applied to Northeastern for 2,800 spots in the incoming freshman class — a 15 percent surge of applicants from last year and nearly triple the number from a decade ago, according to university officials, who plan to formally announce the figures today.</p>

<p>While other major Boston-area institutions, including Harvard, Tufts, Brandeis, Boston College, and Emerson, have experienced double-digit increases in applications as high school seniors apply to more colleges, the rise at Northeastern stands out because of its sheer size.</p>

<p>The university, known for its century-old co-op program that gives students full-time work experience, has seen a steady rise in applications over the past four years. But the huge leap this year was surprising and noteworthy, said Philomena Mantella, senior vice president for enrollment.</p>

<p>“It comes down to our relevance as a university,’’ Mantella said. “Experiential learning really resonates with this generation, especially in this economy, with their concerns about job opportunities and getting an edge up. We are just so well positioned for today’s prospective students.’’</p>

<p>The number of international applicants has jumped by more than 42 percent in one year, to 4,438, Mantella said. Last July, the university for the first time hosted an admissions conference for more than 700 high school counselors from abroad.</p>

<p>Another reason for the upswing: The university this year began allowing students to graduate in four years, instead of its traditional five-year commitment — and still squeeze in two six-month stints of on-the-job training — in an effort to attract higher achievers who may be eager to move on to graduate school.</p>

<p>Prospective students, Mantella said, are also lured by the university’s growing global reach and overseas connections, offering more opportunities for students to not only study, but also work abroad. Northeastern’s 15,000 undergraduates have been placed in co-ops in 69 countries on all seven continents, including Antarctica.</p>

<p>Some of the largest increases in applicant interest have been in the emerging fields of behavioral neuroscience, digital arts, health, sustainability, and security — areas in which Northeastern has recently developed degree programs, Mantella said.</p>

<p>College counselors in top area high schools, including Boston Latin and Newton North, say local interest in Northeastern has always been high, but that many universities that used to be primarily regional are now national and international. Added to Northeastern’s list of pluses is the urban university’s spruced-up campus, including new dormitories.</p>

<p>“Students these days want urban in large part,’’ said Brad MacGowan, college counselor at Newton North High School. “The buildings and the campus are also much more attractive and impressive now.’’</p>

<p>Northeastern is not simply getting more applicants, Mantella said; it has become increasingly selective as the university’s reputation has skyrocketed among a stronger, more diverse pool of prospective students. The academic caliber of applicants has risen, with the number of students scoring more than 1,400 on the SAT jumping by 37 percent. And more African-American and Hispanic students are applying than ever before, university officials said.</p>

<p>Northeastern received applications from 666 high schools that had never previously sent candidates to the school. Most of the rise in US applicants has come from California, Illinois, Ohio, and Oregon.</p>

<p>“Clearly Northeastern has growing momentum, reflecting the stronger global reach that we have,’’ Mantella said. “This increase among applicants who have many choices is really quite exciting.’’</p>

<p>Northeastern’s application increase vaulted it over neighboring Boston University, which, in previous years, was one of only three private colleges in the country, along with New York University and the University of Southern California, that drew more applicants than Northeastern.</p>

<p>USC expects to receive about 38,000 applications this year. NYU will not release its application number until today.</p>

<p>But by no means is BU’s popularity diminishing. This year it attracted its highest number of applicants, 41,700 students, up 9 percent from the previous year. Like Northeastern, BU is also seeing a significant rise in its number of international students as well as students from underrepresented minority groups, along with an increase in applicants’ academic qualifications.</p>

<p>Emerson, too, has drawn a greater number of minority applicants due to a renewed focus on diversifying the communication and performing arts campus in downtown Boston. Last year the college paid for guidance counselors from high schools serving predominantly urban, minority students to fly to Boston and get acquainted with the college’s professors and academic programs, said MJ Knoll-Finn, Emerson’s vice president of enrollment.</p>

<p>It has also begun sending its students back to their own high schools for targeted recruiting. The strategies helped lead to a 21 percent jump in minority applicants over last year, she said.</p>

<p>Applications, particularly at more selective schools, typically go up each year, as it has become easier for students to apply to more schools, using electronic submissions and the Common Application. The College Board recommends that students apply to between five and eight colleges, but in the Northeast, students typically apply to seven to 10 schools, said Richard Doherty, president and CEO of the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts.</p>

<p>Many of the state’s private colleges are reporting steady application increases, he said, though official numbers will not be collected until the spring.</p>

<p>“I think the reason for it is that families and students just understand that in this tough economy, education matters in terms of being able to get jobs, especially in Massachusetts, which has such a knowledge-based economy,’’ Doherty said.</p>

<p>More telling, in coming months, will be schools’ acceptance rates — and, of those lucky enough to gain admission, how many students actually choose to enroll.</p>

<p>I saw that article and hope they follow up with one on those who choose to accept as well.</p>

<p>In our experience in this little corner of the world, there are TONS of kids at my daughter’s school who applied to Northeastern. Some were accepted and some were deferred. I haven’t heard of any who were flat out rejected, but since she is in honors and AP classes, those kids are not in her daily life anyway.</p>

<p>A few of them used Northeastern as a safety, but some are seriously considering it. And one thought he was using it as a safety but when he got the $20K scholarship, it became a little more like a Target school! </p>

<p>Interesting though that the ‘curve’ on the 2015 acceptance thread seemed to be mostly all ‘accepted’ or ‘deferred.’ I wonder what the rates of deferral and rejection were in the EA process.</p>

<p>Either way, it’s great for the school. We’re looking forward to sending her there!</p>

<p>The Northeastern website said that EA applicants would be either admitted or deferred and that a “small number” of applications would be denied at that time. There were 14,000 EA decisions that went out and no more than a couple hundred posted their results on CC. My guess is that with the increasing number of applicants, Northeastern wanted to keep its options open. I have no idea what algorithm the admissions office uses to predict yield based on acceptances but it must be nerve racking to try and match the goal of 2800 students entering in September. If they were to end up with say an extra 500 deposits come May 1, it would lead to a housing crisis and larger classes etc. Northeastern will post the stats for admitted and enrolled freshmen as they become available. Most likely a lot of students will be waitlisted in March. </p>

<p>As far as I know, Northeastern has not sent out mass mailings offering free applications. This has been done at some elite schools: U Chicago, Washington U in St. Louis and Tulane. Some targeted free apps were sent out. </p>

<p>This same article could have been written about 15 years ago regarding Boston College. BC transformed from being a school populated mostly with graduates of Catholic high schools in the Boston area to a highly selective national school. BC freshman stats are significantly higher than those of Boston University. Now Northeastern’s stats have exceeded those of BU, not by much…yet! It will be very interesting to watch how this all falls out in the months to come.</p>

<p>Oh, man … 2,800 spots ONLY? Out of 43,000? Yikes!
I really hope I get a spot. I’m seriously considering this school. I love everything about Northeastern and I’ll be completely devastated if I don’t get in ): This is making me sad …</p>

<p>2,800 spots isnt necessarily their limit, in fact they definitely accept far more students than that. however, 2,800 is the expected number of students who will actually enroll. i’m interested to see what the acceptance rate ends up being this year, and whether it goes up or down from the 35-40% range it’s been hovering at.</p>

<p>Didn’t an article recently run saying that BU had this happen last year - they accepted based on their algorithm and they got more freshmen than they’d expected? I hadn’t seen that on the site but I guess that explains the seeming lack of rejections. And I know it’s a small sampling on here but you’d still expect to see the same sort of distribution. Unless cc’ers are just all the ‘worthy ones!’</p>

<p>My daughter was looking at Northeastern and a couple of the ‘elite’ LACs. So many people would say, “oh, those are good schools!” and then when I’d tell them she had chosen Northeastern, they’d say, “oh, that’s nice.” I’m glad to hear she made the right choice, although we never doubted it, or she wouldn’t have chosen it.</p>

<p>I look forward to seeing their yield rate. Hope they called it right!</p>

<p>Good luck to all in the RD pool!</p>

<p>To the above poster:</p>

<p>In my experience, Northeastern is either a) confused with Northwestern so people get really excited but when you point out they are wrong they assume you go to a bad school or b) totally unheard of so people again assume you go to a bad school.</p>

<p>And then suddenly, once you start going here, everyone knows someone who knows someone who went here and has some amazing co-op story to tell. You start coop with the most incredible employers in the industry and meet people who have been working there ten years who WENT to northeastern and did the coop program. You go home for a short break in the winter, and you sit around listening to all your high school friends complain about how they are graduating in a year and they don’t know what they want to do and they are just now realizing they should probably do an internship but they have no idea how to start one, and then you tell them about how you are having trouble fitting everything in your resume on one page. And then you graduate, and get a job without too much heartbreak, and all those loans your high school friends who went to state schools made fun of you for are manageable because you didn’t start out at some bottom level practically-internship level pay.</p>

<p>And then you laugh, remembering way back when, when you were worried that it wasn’t a good idea to go to Northeastern because people didn’t really know about it or get excited about it.</p>

<p>So I’m glad you’re happy with your decision.</p>

<p>Haha! Thanks, neuchimie!</p>

<p>Actually, the liberal arts schools, although prestigious and certainly breathtakingly beautiful, didn’t make sense to us anyway. The whole liberal arts, cocktail party talk well-rounded idea is nice, but at $50,000 for the undergraduate degree, probably in psychology, they just didn’t really fit our budget anyway.</p>

<p>I hope your description proves true for my daughter!</p>

<p>Re: Northeastern/Northwestern confusion, I am reminded that twenty years ago, when Boston College began its rise to national prominence, there was confusion as to its identity in other regions of the country. Some thought that Boston College was the undergraduate division of Boston University in the same was that Harvard College is the undergraduate division of Harvard University. Both being on Commonwealth Avenue and sharing the same branch of the Green Line added to the confusion. BC’s Jesuit identity and football team helped to differentiate BC from BU very quickly. Few would confuse the two schools today.</p>

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<p>Down here in south Texas, no one has heard of Northeastern! I tell people PMKjr goes to “Northeastern in Boston”, like it’s all one word because after I said he went to Northeastern, the next question was always “Where is that?” </p>

<p>This has freed me up to plaster my car and wardrobe with Northeastern gear without feeling like I’m being obnoxious. I love it! We’ve given all our friends Northeastern cups and now Northeastern ornaments. Due to the overwhelming amount of Texas A & M gear you see everywhere down here, our friends have started calling us “Boston Aggies.” Makes me laugh every time.</p>

<p>What’s an Aggie?</p>

<p>The Texas A&M version of a Husky :-)</p>

<p>I feel ya. Everytime people ask where I am going, I have to say “Northeastern University…it’s in Boston”. Without the added location, people get confused. I would say that at least 50% of my class is headed to UT or A&M.</p>

<p>Actually, if a Bostonian were to tell a local that he is going to Rice, they’d get the question “Where’s that?”<br>
It all comes down to regional blinders. </p>

<p>(For some Bostonians reading this, Rice is an elite university in Houston, TX.)</p>

<p>^this is very true.</p>

<p>From Northeastern’s 2010-2011 Fact Book;</p>

<p>Fall 2010 applications; 37,688
acceptances; 14,291
Acceptance rate: 37.9% (making it “highly selective”)
enrollments; 2839
Yield: 19.8% (of applicants who enrolled)</p>

<p>Given the increase in applications to 43,000 this year, essentially the same number of targeted enrollments, and a growing reputation (meaning greater expected yield), the acceptance rate will probably be even lower this year.</p>

<p>I just had a basic question (it kind of refers to all universities in fact).</p>

<p>Northeastern just got a huge increase in applicants, but only has ~2800 for the incoming freshman class. Of course, it accepts much more then 2800 people (choosing other schools, financial constraints, location, etc).</p>

<p>However, what happens if most of the people that do get accepted decide to attend Northeastern (or any University) and the number is a lot larger than 2800? (Or the freshman class the university can hold)</p>

<p>That’s a problem many schools face. There is a lot of statistics involved with trying to estimate how many will apply and accept. Many schools waitlist applicants to help with this problem - if they underestimate how many accept, they can go to the waitlist. If schools do get too many accepting, that can mean dorm rooms with three people instead of two, until enough students drop out. Here’s a question I’m curious about - do schools ever rescind offers if the acceptance rate is too high?</p>

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<p>Any university that is concerned about USNWR rankings (they all are despite some that protest) wants high retention and graduation rates. They are never going to do anything to encourage students to drop out. </p>

<p>Rescinding offers of admission would likely be illegal. I suspect that a lot of applicants will be waitlisted this year given the vagaries of yield.</p>

<p>Yeah I’m pretty schools can only rescind an offer if you fail to meet requirements or expectations. So a school like Oxford might say yes, if you get all 7s on your IB exams in the subjects you want to study in college. But at northeastern, it usually just means you have to graduate high school without getting straight Fs your last semester.</p>