^this
I agree that 180 is alot if you are not including AP and transfer hours.
My D actually has 41 AP hours plus 6 hours of transfer dual credit from high school which only leaves 133 available. All of her hours are actually contributing to her majors and minor. Looking back she probably would not do the minor again, but do we really expect that students should know going in exactly what they want to study?
These rules may eliminate the 6+ year undergrad but I don’t see how they are going to necessarily increase the 4 and 5 year graduation rates. I think it would make much more sense to track rate of progress toward whatever degree/s the student is admitted to.
These policies do nothing about students who take more years because they retake classes several times to pass which seems to happen a lot in D’s major at ASU. In that case, they may take more than 6 years to graduate (or worse not ever get a degree at all) but it isn’t because they hit some credit limit.