<p>But man, good luck! Columbia's more competitive than ever, so make sure the app is spotless.</p>
<p>^Thanks I will</p>
<p>thank you for your answers, i know i need a reality check that yeah imight have screwed up because i did receive a low score, but people dont have to be a**holes about whether or not im smart enough. i wasnt asking for personal ideoloy of whether or not im considered "talented or intelligent (whatever that means, lol)" a simple national college test does not measure that. idk, maybe we all have different definitions about what exactly is being smart, anyone could memorize facts, but im my opinion, its how you apply the things you learn into the real world that makes u a smart person. yeah, its nice to take a gagillion AP classes and work ur butt off through calculus, but you should accomplish all those things if you look foward to applying them in the real world. i might be dozing off a little, but idk, i was really disappointed about where this thread was heading. the thing that sucks is that many people believe that a 2400 is what determines whether or not u get into a college or if ur "smart". its sad that many people think that way, but yeah i guess thats how our system works. i only hoped that people would have replied to my question without turning this thread into a debate, but oh well. by the way, yes i do plan on studying for the SAT's. the first time i took them i received a 1540 last year in Nov. Im planning to retake them again as a senior in Oct. I have had a way more challenging course load my junior year. At my school, ur not allowed to take any AP classes untill ur a junior. so yeah, the only reason i am willing to study for the SAT's is because thats (sadly) one of the main factors that gets integretated into ur application during the admissions process. I feel hypocritical, but i have to get a decent score to get into the colleges im looking forward to getting into (hopefully). so i am willing to work my butt off for this. thank u for all ur messages, even the ones that were pretty cruel.</p>
<p>All of the people that posted negatively, die in a fire. </p>
<p>I don't really have any advice, besides that I and many others are in the same situation. I wish you good luck and hope the best for you. Also, there are many good colleges that do NOT require the SAT. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fairtest.org/optstate.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.fairtest.org/optstate.html</a></p>
<p>Good luck again.</p>
<p>This thread makes me absolutely sick. The OP NEVER stated that he wanted to get into Harvard, or anything of the equivalent. He simply wanted to know the likelihood of improvement his score, and to what extent. There are many, many colleges that would be impressed with a few hundred point increase on the SAT. There are many, many people who study hard for the SAT, myself included.</p>
<p>Do you think an 1880 is good enough for Duke? No? How about a 2150? I took the SAT twice, and studied after the first time. Improvement is good and many universities see that. Not everyone has to ace the test the first time. And he hasn't even mentioned a name, so let's assume he just wants to be competative at many colleges, not just the top 25.</p>
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^The only reason most people take the SAT is to get into college.
^The only reason most people take it again, is to get into "Elite" colleges</p>
<p>Right or wrong?
If it wasn't mandatory, I'm sure a lot of people would care less about that test
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<p>It couldn't be more wrong. My friend score a 1470/2400 his first time on the SAT, and has taken it again, and will take it a third time. He isn't shooting for any elite college. He simply wants to best his chances for the colleges he will apply to, such as Virginia Wesleyan. Not Harvard. Not everyone is applying to top 25 schools.</p>
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Honestly (painfully honest) if you got a 1540 out of 2400 you don't really deserve a considerably higher score. The idea of the test is to measure proficiency not get a score then spend months learning how to beat the test and misrepresent your intelligence. Its like lying on your extracurricular sheet. I appreciate your willingness to put effort into improvement, but your GPA is what measures that type of effort. I am against SAT retakes all together but in your situation I have to be mean and say come on...you don't deserve a 2000 or above.
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<p>This is one of the word and misguided posts I have ever seen on CC.</p>
<p>A 1540/2400 is just about the average for those taking the test. Stop with the elitist condescending comments, please.</p>
<p>Thank you^^^^ Finally someone has sense</p>
<p>"the thing that sucks is that many people believe that a 2400 is what determines whether or not u get into a college or if ur "smart". its sad that many people think that way, but yeah i guess thats how our system works."</p>
<p>I don't believe that your SAT score determines whether you'll get in, but it is a factor (or at some places, not if you choose a school that doesn't count test scores or if you take the ACT). I don't think that the SAT is that great or a predictor of intelligence or talent or what ever, but I do think that there is generally a correlation between your SAT score and intelligence.</p>
<p>My intention wasn't to be cruel, but ideally (just FYI, I also ideally believe in incredibly harsh punishments as a deterrant, but that doesn't mean that I in any way that I support them IRL, so my ideals are rather different from what I support in reality), that's just what I believe (and I felt sorry for TheGrouch getting *****ed at, though I don't agree with him/her 100%), either way, I'm really not going to try and censor myself for an anonymous internet forum.</p>
<p>Answer to your question? The highest score you can get is a 2400, I don't know you, or if you studied for the first one or if you were sick or hung over or whatever and even if you did, I don't think that anyone on CC can say 100% that there is NO way you'll get above a certain score. So basically, study, get plenty of rest/food, take the test, then find out how you did because it's not like what we say here will actually change the result, or look into the ACT, which IMO is a easier test to "learn."</p>