2 midshipmen assaulted; fellow Mid charged

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Does that include the Annapolis Police Department?</p>

<p>Their case number is 07-006176</p>

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<p>Here in NY, a former FBI Agent who was being prosecuted for accessory to murder in a hugely-publicized Mafia case walked away scott-free when it turned out the prosecution's main witness was shown to have been lying the whole time.</p>

<p>There was a police record on him, too. Doesn't mean a damned thing.</p>

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Mids getting rewards for turning each other in

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<p>Please tell me you are kidding.... :(</p>

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It sounded like the two Mids who came to break-up the fight (which was already over) just really wanted to turn the incident into the Academy. My thought is that they probably thought the last Mid got an award and such grand public recognition from the Sup and the Dant for following and turning in a fellow Mid for drinking. Maybe they thought …here is my chance to get some recognition, too.

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<p>Unless you know a lot more about what happened than is posted here or on the report, I can’t fathom how you could come to that conclusion… “here is my chance to get some recognition, too” I for one would like to think there aren’t many Mids running around that think like that.. </p>

<p>As far as the “news” goes…</p>

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It's news because more is expected from our future leaders at Annapolis, not because of any real or imagined vendetta by the reporter.

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<p>Can’t argue with that Luigi; well at least the first part. I’ve never met the man so I can’t comment on the second part of your assessment. </p>

<p>Once again should we draw any conclusions from how events like this are framed as they “inform us” of the news.. ? </p>

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The assault was one of a string of episodes that have brought the academy bruising exposure in recent years, including the deaths of three midshipmen in alcohol-related accidents, sexual-misconduct cases and news reports of a bawdy spring break cruise during which Mids were accused of raucous behavior while drinking.

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<p>Could you write about such an event while reminding the readers that events such as these are indeed the exception rather than the rule? </p>

<p>Could he have framed this event by saying “The assault was one of a string of episodes that have brought the academy bruising exposure in recent years. While scores of academy graduates serve this country with distinction and include some who have made the ultimate sacrifice in service to this great country, events such as this remind us that even our best and brightest can make mistakes”. </p>

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news reports of a bawdy spring break cruise during which Mids were accused of raucous behavior while drinking.

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<p>This one actually cracks me up, while I recognize the news coverage that event triggered was unfortunate, I don’t think there are too many adults on this planet that haven’t experienced some aspect of spring break during their college years that didn’t involve drinking and “raucous behavior”…how could you have a spring break without them?</p>

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Could you write about such an event while reminding the readers that events such as these are indeed the exception rather than the rule?</p>

<p>Could he have framed this event by saying “The assault was one of a string of episodes that have brought the academy bruising exposure in recent years. While scores of academy graduates serve this country with distinction and include some who have made the ultimate sacrifice in service to this great country, events such as this remind us that even our best and brightest can make mistakes”.

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<p>Nope. That doesn't fit the template, and the template is everything to these clowns.</p>

<p>Remember, the Naval Academy is a waste of taxpayer money that could be used to feed the poor. The folks who attend it are simply the leaders of the next Abu Grahib or Tailhook. :rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Zaphod - I wish I was kidding. The Sup came into a classroom and gave a Mid a reward for turning in her classmate for drinking. The other Mid did nothing else wrong but drink a bit to much.</p>

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<p>Man, that's just sick on SO many levels! What was the reward? A gift certificate to Riordans?</p>

<p>Great. Now we give awards to bilgepumps. So much for looking out for one another. WONDERFUL! :mad:</p>

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<p>So now the Annapolis Police Department is part of "The Grand Liberal Conspiracy To Defame The Naval Academy?"</p>

<p>Are the two mids who were "allegedly" assaulted also part of "The Plan?"</p>

<p>The Sun has its own agenda to pursue, and yes, there is no doubt about its liberal left-wing slant to the news they choose to (or not ) publish.</p>

<p>But to extend this "anti-Naval Academy" belief to every news organization that reports something negative about them, or to the local PD that investigates their crimes, is paranoia. </p>

<p>Would it better if it was Fox News that reported the story? Do you trust them, or is Everyone out to "get" the Naval Academy?</p>

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<p>about the incident with the supe rewarding the girl for turning in a fellow mid-</p>

<p>i know the poor guy she turned in. he's a good kid in my company, and was out celebrating his 21st birthday. he did not lie about drinking and everyone noted his cooperation when she took it upon herself to bring him back to the hall and get him a breathalyzer. he was not causing any trouble or creating a scene: she just felt the need to turn him in. what did he get? 60 days restriction, while she got a personal commendation from the supe. </p>

<p>i mention this because the next week the entire brigade learned through the weekly flier on the table in king hall detailing recent XYZ cases that another mid had gotten wasted, returned to the hall, stumbled into a female mids room and groped her, then stumbled out and returned to his bed. his punishment? 60 days restriction, the exact same as the unfortunate youngster in my company. apparently, its the drinking that the administration cared about, not feeling up some poor sleeping girl. after myself and many of my companymates voiced our feelings about this disparity, the youngster's restriction was cut down to 30 days. the whole thing makes me sick.</p>

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...the weekly flier on the table in king hall detailing recent XYZ cases that another mid had gotten wasted, returned to the hall, stumbled into a female mids room and groped her...

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<p>How dare The Weekly Flier print such terrible agenda-based allegations. The writer must want to destroy The Brigade and bring down the Navy with such scurrilous printed matter. They should have printed stories about the other 1200+ mids who went to bed sober that night.</p>

<p>:rolleyes: ;)</p>

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<p>Luigi, you are completely missing my point, and it would seem to be on purpose.</p>

<p>I have no problems with the TRUTH being reported. Unfortunately, there seems to be an almost palpable glee in the reporting of anything negative regarding the Service Academies (and the military, for that matter). As you can see from this thread, I am hardly alone in this opinion.</p>

<p>It's a fact. If you don't want to subscribe to it, that's your own lookout.</p>

<p>I'm really sorry to hear that story, Wheelah. That's no way to treat adults, instil teamwork, or teach lessons. It IS truly sickening. :(</p>

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<p>luigi, you did completely miss my point. i was not saying anything about the printing of such cases, only detailing how we as a brigade came to find out about the second case. so go wink face at something else.</p>

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<p>Let me start by acknowledging that I'm not personally familiar with any of the drinking/assault incidents discussed on this thread. So my comments are general in nature.</p>

<p>I get the idea that the current administration is trying to (1) cut down on drinking to excess and (2) cut out drinking by those under age. Personally, I think that's a worthy goal. Lots of bad things happen when people are drunk (or even tipsy). Judgment is impaired. Fights, sexual assault, traffic accidents, and the like all follow directly from people imbibing too much. If it takes making an example of an unfortunate few to stop it, so be it.</p>

<p>The fact it's your 21st BD doesn't give you license to act inappropriately. And, as long as you're in the military, you're always subject to a somewhat higher standard. May not be fair, but it's reality. </p>

<p>And, it's a lesson better learned now. When I was on active duty in the Pentagon (yeah, an "when I was" story!), one night of our NCOs was arrested for DUI. We never saw him again (i.e., he was transferred). He had a high security clearance. People with clearances and people with DUIs aren't general the same people. There is not much -- if any -- tolerance for officers who get wasted. There shouldn't be for mids either.</p>

<p>That said, I don't sanction "rewarding" someone for turning in a fellow mid. I would reward someone for recognizing a fellow mid was drunk and getting him/her back to Bancroft Hall w/o further incident -- and possibly preventing an embarrassing/unfortunate incident from occurring. Should there be repercussions for the drunk? I don't know. Depends on the facts and the current rules at USNA.</p>

<p>Bottom line: It's a different world today then when some on this board were mids. We could drink at 18 and mids routinely came back to the Hall Saturday nights drunk as skunks. That won't be tolerated today and it shouldn't be.</p>

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<p>So it is your position that the Baltimore Sun printed a false story?</p>

<p>Because from your posts, it appears that you have a HUGE problem with the story being reported by The Sun, truth or not.</p>

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<p>Apparently, "Recognition Of Sarcasm" is a skill not taught in Annapolis. :rolleyes:</p>

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So it is your position that the Baltimore Sun printed a false story?

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<p>False? Probably not.</p>

<p>Gleefully written to once again give USNA a black eye and drag it through the mud? Assuredly.</p>

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<p>Mid</a> charged with punching female mid in face - Navy News, opinions, editorials, news from Iraq, photos, reports - Navy Times</p>

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A drunken brawl near the Annapolis City Dock ended with a midshipman charged with punching a female midshipman in the face and pushing her boyfriend into the water.</p>

<p>The incident Sunday began about 8 p.m. when senior Daitra Ann Pierson allegedly was struck in the face by Joseph D. Baer, 23, after she and her boyfriend, Jose Anderson Ayala, tried to break up a scuffle between midshipmen and three civilians, according to court documents....

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i know the poor guy she turned in. he's a good kid in my company, and was out celebrating his 21st birthday. he did not lie about drinking and everyone noted his cooperation when she took it upon herself to bring him back to the hall and get him a breathalyzer.

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<p>On a certain level I hope her company mates are helping her "correct" her deficiency, because it doesn't seem to be coming from the other side of the house.</p>

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I hope her company mates are helping her "correct" her deficiency

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<p>One can certainly hope so... :mad:</p>

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<p>I read the story. It's pretty much factual. I was on CMOD that night so the CDO filled me in on it and it doesn't seem to be falsified. Pretty funny I think. Oh well. Stupid of them to go any give us more of a bad name, but whatever, things happen.
I hadn't heard the thing about the girl turning in the youngster. That's a ***** move right there. I don't know anyone in my company who would do something like that. Fry someone just because they did something wrong on such a minor level as drinking too much. WE had an incompany case and we never turned anyone in, but we dealt with it as a class. Seems to work a lot better.
Oh and Weelah, about the XYZ case, wasn't that a 2/C going intoa plebe's room? And he went in twice? I don't remember it exactly,t hat was a few weeks ago... I would figure he would get seperated for that.</p>

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<p>^^^ welcome jack! nice to have another Mid reporting in!!!</p>

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<p>Why focus on drunk students when you can focus on drunk students who exemplify what it means to defend our country? ---media perspective of course. </p>

<p>I do agree under most circumstances this incident would not reach headlines but do remember it is USNA and midshipmen are taken to be of higher standard. I would expect the media to cover it when I am in attendence. (hopefully) 8)</p>