2006 LIT/COMP: Country vs. "Country"

<p>My vote is that the prompt meant country-side, because if they meant nation, they probably would have written "nation". Just my vote tho, I could be wrong. And if thats correct and the AP people determine that it is "country-side" only, and specifically that nation was not a correct interpretation of the prompt, than I believe those misinterpreting cannot score higher than a 5 for that particular essay. For all I know though, it could be the other way around (country-side vs. nation).</p>

<p>0 = Indicates an on-topic response that receives no credit such as one that merely repeats the prompt or one that is completely off topic.</p>

<p>5 = Essays earning a score of 5 analyze the strategies, but they may provide uneven or inconsistent analysis. They may treat the prompt in a superficial way or demonstrate a limited understanding of the prompt. While the writing may contain lapses in diction or syntax, it usually conveys ideas adequately.</p>

<p>You can imagine whats in between as far as writing skills, but a 6 and up is "adequately addressing the prompt", and depending on how the AP people deal with this, a misinterpreation of the prompt may result in being unable to score any higher than a 5. =/</p>

<p>Not saying everyone who interpreted it correctly is going to write 9 papers, but misinterpreting the prompt does pretty heavily drop your score.</p>

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<p>lvshorty610 is right -- my teacher has told us the same thing. However, that is assuming that CollegeBoard does not accept both. And I personally will be shocked if they don't. And after all the bad press they've been getting over other errors... well, no one will be surprised they messed up again. The only thing that'll lower their credibility right now is holding to their guns when they're the ones at fault.</p>

<p>i suppose CB will just have to decide what is more important:
1. reading the prompt with thorough understanding of "country" denoting "countryside" and writing some mediocre essay with a book that when manipulated barely, barely fits, or
2. accidently misinterpretting the prompt as a "nation," but expressing highly commendable writing abilities and exquisite language, able to quote the book and write an amazing essay with vivid detail</p>

<p>...because according to that rubric, both merit a 5. But in the larger spectrum of things, what defines the AP Lit student?</p>

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<p>so, anyone get a chance to take a look at the exact wording of the open question?...(taken verbatim below...)</p>

<p>"Many writers use a country setting to establish values within a work of literature. For example, the country may be a place of virtue and peace or primitivism and ignorance. Choose a novel in which such a setting plays a significant role. Then write an essay in which you analyze how the country setting functions in the work as a whole. Do not merely summarize the plot."</p>

<p>after reading this over, i can see a case for both interpretations of country. (rural vs. nation)...</p>

<p>i can see that they intended for the meaning of the prompt to be the countrySIDE / rural rather than country as in nation, but i do believe that it is much too ambiguous and can easily by interpreted (with validity) in favor of country meaning nation.</p>

<p>to me, it seems that the "For example, the country may be a place of virtue and peace or primitivism and ignorance. " part which many people are saying is the deciding factor for the rural definition can also be taken as meaning a nation. countries can exhibit similar such values through cultural traditions, societal concepts, and even time-specific rationale...(which is what i wrote about)</p>

<p>eh, to sum it all up, i hope they're nice to all of us who wrote about a NATION!! :(</p>

<p>Even if you misread or misinterpret the prompt, the readers can give you a higher score if your essay is well written. But other than that, it's true that the prompt was TOO ambiguous and there is too high of a percentage of people who wrote about the nation for the collegeboard to ignore it.</p>

<p>@ hellokitty11
There are plenty of books that fit the country mold.
One of the one I used and other students in my class was "The Secret Life of the Bees"</p>

<p>back @ ya wonwon
i know that......................thank you.
i GOT the countryside deal.....used Jane Eyre</p>

<p>i was putting out a scenario of someone who hadn't been doing their hw all year and forced a book</p>

<p>SORRY but you people who chose nation aren't correct. The question uses the phrase "the country setting" which doesn't make sense if you think of country as nation. Because that "country" is a noun and cannot be used as an adjective. And in the prompt they use it to modify "setting."</p>

<p>BUT...so what? If you wrote a good essay you're fine either way! Don't stress.</p>

<p>This would have to been a multi-yearly student.
"The Adventure of Huckberry Finn" from AP LANG was there.
So, I don't know ~.~</p>

<p>I know a few people who don't actually read the book or do their work, just cliff note it at the last minute. That works also.</p>

<p>hellokitty: If you don't answer the question, you get a 0, no matter how well written your essay is. The shallow garbage at least addresses the question so it will get a 1. Look at the AP grading system for past free response questions...that's how it works.</p>

<p>And you ARE in an AP Lit class. Did you not recognize the books listed? They all were about the RURAL COUNTRY!!!! Writing about an actual country was just an easy escape for you guys to avoid the question. Now, THAT's unfair</p>

<p>I know a few people who sit really close to smart people during exams and cheat. That works too. </p>

<p>What did your statement have anything to do with this?</p>

<p>bongo-i got the whole countryside deal. freak out.</p>

<p>lol I love how Bongo talks about high and mighty AP students knowing how to read and clearly didn't read your post, hellokitty11.</p>

<p>actually, i did read her comment</p>

<p>and here is my response: why even give a question? Why can't we just write about anything as long as its well written? The reason: because the AP Lit test (at least the 3rd question) tests the breadth of your reading, not just how well you write. Following hellokitty's logic, why couldn't I just create my topic and write an amazing essay on that? Heck, I can prepare an essay ahead of time, meorize it, and write it verbatim whatever the question.</p>

<p>Question 3 assesses your literary knowledge (what books you read). If you can't answer the topic with a proper book, then tough luck. </p>

<p>Maybe I'm being harsh and being a little extreme because some people may have honestly taken country to mean a nation but that's where your knowledge of Lit and critical reading should come in...just knowing one of those books on the list should clue you in and the wording (should I say diction?) of the question would tell you they aren't talking about a nation.</p>

<p>CBA321, before you respond, please read my post and understand my point of view. Thanks alot...</p>

<p>So your point of view is that someone interpreting country as an actual country - which is completely logical and obviously was done by numerous people - is on par with someone writing about color symbols or biblical language on Thursday?</p>

<p>Huh. Interesting.</p>

<p>My point is that I think a lot of you are sounding elitist by saying that there was only one way to interpret the question. Because ... you're wrong.</p>

<p>You didn't read my post, CBA321...that's funny</p>

<p>I said and I quote, "Maybe I'm being harsh and being a little extreme." I can see how the mistake happened, but question 3 assesses your literary knowledge...if you couldn't figure out the meaning, then you suffer the consequences</p>

<p>I hope you read this...now I can see the trouble you had with the question</p>

<p>Edit: Interpert? There was no assortment of books on that test that hinted at it being a nation! And elitist? I wouldn't care either way how collegeboard handles it, but I think it would damage the integrity of the test. Is this AP Lit or AP Writing? And what's the point of the question if it isn't being answered?</p>

<p>Funny that you edit your post after I post my comment, bongo, and then try to make me look ignorant. Hysterical.</p>

<p>And I quote from my email</p>

<p>"
Here is the message that has just been posted:</p>

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<p>actually, i did read her comment</p>

<p>and here is my response: why even give a question? Why can't we just write about anything as long as its good? The reason: because the AP Lit test (at least the 3rd question) tests the breadth of your reading, not just how well you write. Following hellokitty's logic, why couldn't I just create my topic and write an amazing essay on that? Heck, I can prepare an essay ahead of time, meorize it, and write it verbatim whatever the question.</p>

<p>CBA321, before you respond, please read my post and understand my point of view. Thanks alot...</p>

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<p>Interesting, again. Manipulative, as well.</p>

<p>I admit I did edit it, but that must have been while you were making your response...that was my bad. I take back what I said before (the personal attack...that was childish) but I still stick by my opinion. The 3rd question assesses literary knowledge AND writing ability. One w/o the other should be a 0.</p>

<p>What do you think the score would be if you wrote about setting in general as opposed to a "country" setting. I have been arguing with my friend about whose right. I said the question was specifically country while he argued just setting in general.</p>

<p>Bongo-- is misunderstanding the prompt (like a GOOD PORTION of people did) the same as memorizing a random essay on how pigs can fly in lala land? I don't understand why you are trying to feel so effing special. There is no proof that if there was a second, equally ambiguous open question on the exam, you might have misinterpretted it. It just happened to click for some and it just happened to fly over for others. CollegeBoard will probably accept both. Certainly unfair for those of us who got it right, but the possibly only way not to severely **** up the scores</p>