<p>Quick Question: when do the SAT scores and acceptance rates of the 2006 accepted class come out? even if its not on US News</p>
<p>If the college shares info re institutional research- look for the common data set</p>
<p>Of course it is often the case that the SAT scores of <em>accepted</em> students are higher than the SAT scores of the students who <em>enroll</em> ..... the yield rate drops among those with higher SAT scores, who tend to have more attractive alternatives.</p>
<p>I'm surprised nobody has started an Affirmative Action donnybrook over the half-black gal who has a feature in the US News undergrad ranking issue that came out this week. She got accepted to Amherst with SATs that were embarrassingly low. If I were an Asian, I'd be seriously pi$$ed.</p>
<p>What did US News say about said girl?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usnews.com%5B/url%5D">www.usnews.com</a> ... its free (the rankings at least)</p>
<p>Its interesting to see that the UCs have an extremely percentage of their students in the top 10% of their graduating class.</p>
<p>Berkeley= 99%
UCLA= 97%
UCSD= 99%
UC Davis=95%
UC Santa Barbara= 96%</p>
<p>These numbers are even higher than or equal to the top privates (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc)</p>
<p>Her SATs were 550math, 600cr, 640writing, and got into 8 of the 9 private schools she applied to. She was accepted at Notre Dame and Amherst, but turned them down for Spelman in Atlanta.</p>
<p>Oh I meant what was their take on that? Was it a critique (implied or otherwise) of AA?</p>
<p>I think the UC admissions procedures are heavily weighted towards grades and class rank. Note how surprisingly low the SAT ranges are at the UCs. Some will say the SATs are low because the off-the-boat Asians speak English as a second or third language, and therefore don't do well on the cr and writing.</p>
<p>Also note that the top-10% at Michigan is higher than a lot of Ivies and the like.</p>
<p>No, they didn't even mention AA. But what non-URM would even THINK of applying to Amherst with those scores?</p>
<p>Also, what does it say about the need for AA if a person like this gets into dream schools like ND and Amherst, and turns them down?</p>
<p>I think UC SAT ranges are lower because they care less about them than do other colleges. They care more about class rank and GPA. It was the UC system that forced the Collegeboard to change the SAT when they were going to cease having it as a requriement for admission.</p>
<p>The girl is in the news because it is...well...news. An airplane that lands safely or a person with great stats who gets in isn't news.</p>
<p>“Also, what does it say about the need for AA if a person like this gets into dream schools like ND and Amherst, and turns them down?”</p>
<p>-It says that not everyone wants to go to Amherst or ND…. Also, Amherst accepts about 50% of Black applicants, so I’m not surprised.</p>
<p>Demanding AA and then turning one's back on it is sort of like requesting that your local supermarket stock something other than strawberry jam, so they stock grape and apple jelly. But you keep buying the strawberry.</p>
<p>I hardly think this high school student demanded anything. You pretense is nice though. :)</p>
<p>Yep, this sounds pretty typical:</p>
<p>URMs: "[Elite institution X] needs AA in order to become an inclusive, tolerant environment for us URMs!"</p>
<p>(school implements AA, accepts URMs)</p>
<p>URMs: "[Elite institution X] doesn't have an inclusive, tolerant environment; therefore I will attend an URMier school instead"</p>
<p>And the self-fulfilling prophecy continues...</p>
<p>NYU is so overrated....especially the cost</p>
<p>AA is largely a function of the schools themselves, not a reaction to public outcries for such a program. It is the schools that are looking to diversify their student populations, and not simply tailoring the will of potential URM applicants. Schools do not implement AA programs just because URMs want to feel included – the background of the program is quite complex- as are all social engineering programs. It’s quite presumptuous to assume that all URMs accepted to elite schools will or should choose to attend. After all, not even Harvard has a 100% yield.</p>
<p>I don’t want to get into a whole thing here, but some of the stuff said on these boards……</p>
<p>I think that BC and NYU should connect hands and just run through the rankings a few spots lol (Although I'd go to BC over NYU myself...a large reason is because of the atmosphere and location tho so don't be insulted lol)</p>