2008 Presidential Scholars candidates list is up

<p>SAT Sum/ACT Comp/ACT
1600 141-144 35-36
1590 140 35
1580 139 35
1570 138 35
1560 138 35
1550 137 34
1540 137 34
1530 136 34
1520 135 34
1510 134 34
1500 133 33
1490 132 33
1480 132 33
1470 131 33</p>

<p>Well they sure haven't been following their "rules," have they now, not till this year anyway.</p>

<p>QM's experience makes it pretty clear that what they were doing was, as we have pieced together today, starting with all the 1600s, then turning their attention to the 36s, but drilling down only as far as needed to arrive at 40 candidates, give or take a few.</p>

<p>And they lived happily ever after......... :)</p>

<p>Now here's the thing. I took the ACT this past fall just to see how it was, and for me it was a bit easier than the SAT. I ended up as a nominee. However, my colleges only know of my SAT scores. So what would they make of me being nominated, if I were to let them know?</p>

<p>In my admittedly uninformed opinion, I don't think they would really think anything of it beyond "Oh, he or she got nominated." The lists are publicly available so they can easily verify students' nomination status if they want to. If there is a big gap between your SAT score and comparable ACT scores, it could be good to update them on the nomination. Hopefully you will get some informed opinions!</p>

<p>Editing to add: I just clicked on your stats profile. If the CR + M scores you have there are from a single sitting, it looks to me like that equates to the ACT composite score you have listed. I don't know how that exactly comes out with the sum of scores referenced above in other posts, but nothing seems out of line. Great job on both tests!</p>

<p>piccolo: I would write each of your schools a short and sweet letter advising them that you have been selected as a PS candidate based on your scores on the October 07 (or September 07) ACT. Explain briefly that you decided not to submit scores because they were comparable to your SAT I scores. Include a copy of your letter from PS. Advising schools of your candidacy can't hurt, and some colleges probably keep track of this kind of data.</p>

<p>I just looked at your stats profile (didn't know such things existed). 2 blue is right. Great job. Depending on your state, we can't know for sure that your SAT CR+ Math did not qualify you for PS. Are you from a large, highly competitive state? Northeast? If so, there were probably plenty of 1600s out there, and the 35 is the silver bullet.</p>

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<p>piccolo, that's still only a 30 point swing. ;)</p>

<p>Piccolo, you may have felt the ACT was easier but both tests really liked you. Very consistent scores and excellent test record. On of the most consistent I've seen. Good job.</p>

<p>Looking back at my post #244 I didn't type what I meant. I do think you should send an update, piccolo. I just meant if there was a big gap between your SAT and ACT you should update them on what your ACT score was when you send in your letter.</p>

<p>My son needs to get his update letters ready today. You know, as first-timers you think you're done with the process when you hit "Submit" on that last application. Hah! Then came new Profile and FAFSA estimates, followed by update letters, followed by Profile and FAFSA revisions, followed by our first verification request, followed by scholarship apps... It does end sometime, right? Right?</p>

<p>could someone summarize this thread, please? I got a thing in the mail last saying I'm a candidate, and I'm curious, but I don't have interest in reading 10+ about this supposed "controversy."</p>

<p>I'll still fill out the stuff, I suppose, since I had a really easy time of it applying to college.</p>

<p>Sure I'll summarize. </p>

<p>Presidential Scholars selection committee=maroons. Us=smarter than the average bear, Boo-Boo. </p>

<p>Sorry to put so fine a point on it, but detail IS important.</p>

<p>I am just curious application materials are supposed to be sent by online or by mail. Their website says that they have to receive by the 19th, so teachers send the recommendation directly by mail, and candidates send theirs by online? I am just curious since parents are not able to see the forms.</p>

<p>teachers may write and send the letter online as well. But I think the parents have to sign a waiver digitally first (a different set of id and pw for parents was given in the letter).</p>

<p>Thank you, Conbrio. I haven't sign on any waiver as a parent yet. At which step do I need to sign?</p>

<p>northwestern, would you please tell me the website link? showing "they have to receive by the 19th". The letter said received by 21th, I am confused now.</p>

<p>My son's info also says the 21st. So far as the waiver goes, if the student is 18 or older the parents don't need to sign the waiver so consequently won't have received an ID and password.</p>

<p>Even if the school recommender sends their report online, the transcript and copy of scores need to be sent as a hard copy.</p>

<p>I received an ID and password, they are in the back of the paper with my son's ID and password.</p>

<p>mmm168, I just took out his letter again and you are correct, there is a parent ID and password there. The paragraph above it is where the explanation is given that parents have to sign for students under 18. Right below the ID is the part about them not needing to if the student is 18 or older. My mistake about not getting one if your child is old enough.</p>

<p>Is it just me or does this application just give off chills and Big Brother weirdness?</p>

<p>Mammall: LOL. What do you expect from the Govt.? Unlike college admissions offices, they're not trying to win anyone over with a form having an "intelligent design".</p>

<p>Are you put off by the title "Candidate Control Form" on the first page? It does have a certain 1984-ish ring to it.</p>

<p>Or how about the line "The authority for the collection of these data is Executive Order 11155." Can you picture W in the Oval Office signing that one?</p>

<p>And then there's "The selection of award recipients will be influenced by the completeness, neatness and legibility of replies." Hmmm. No mention of content of the replies being a factor, but when has content mattered as much as appearances?</p>

<p>I don't know why we should expect anything else from Washington.</p>

<p>Anyone meeting the President in person had better be checked out at least a little.</p>

<p>So frisk 'em, x-ray 'em, sniff 'em for chemical traces, etc. I suppose they could use the SSN to do a background check, but the form is really for selecting the Scholars. I don't think any these students present a real security risk, although perhaps a political one (last year one of the Scholars slipped the President a letter signed by many Scholars protesting the torture of detainees at Guantanamo Bay).</p>