<p>MiPerson: Just call Father Jenkins and tell him to shut the place down. I’m sure that when you explain to him that Notre Dame is on a downward spiral, and that your son is going elsewhere, he’ll listen to…hm, what shall we call it?..reason?..no, there must be a better word; I just can’t think of it. Anyway, I’m sure he’d love to hear from you.</p>
<p>Notre Dame’s 25 percent SAT scores are lower than Duke’s and Stanford’s because Notre Dame places a greater emphasis on test scores than either of those schools, and they’re doing this to keep pace with the rankings. Notre Dame’s “peer” score in the US News rankings (the most heavily weighted element in the formula) is the lowest among the top 25. Keeping test scores high is thus an imperative to Notre Dame maintaining the ranking.</p>
<p>^do you mean SAT scores are HIGHER than Duke’s and Stanford’s … b/c that did read right for me.</p>
<p>That’s exactly what I meant – sorry. It’s pretty obvious that ND has serious test score cutoffs.</p>
<p>The last three posts have confused me. Say it again please.</p>
<p>Ok. Someone asked how it could be possible that the lower of the mid-range range SAT scores reported by ND are higher than those reported by Duke and Stanford when Duke and Stanford are generally regarded as more selective. My response is that this simply means that ND places a greater emphasis on test scores than Duke and Stanford, and I’m guessing that this is because ND can’t afford to be as flexible as these other schools on test scores because it needs higher test scores to balance out its lower reputational score in the U.S. News formula. Just a guess though.</p>
<p>^ND also hurts being a Catholic institution and also b/c of its poor graduate school when compared to other schools like the ivys.</p>
<p>Posts 1 and 54 show the total class of 2013 admissions stats and the early action admission stats for those who are considering applying to ND this fall.</p>
<p>I’m biased but I think that Peer Assessment score is over-rated when it comes to ranking schools like Notre Dame and Georgetown. Catholic schools aren’t exactly loved by most other institutions. It’s the same thing when it comes to Medical School and Law School acceptances…even though the pre-med and pre-law graduates from ND score incredibly well on the MCAT and LSAT, there’s a stigma against Notre Dame. It’s religiously conservative beliefs preclude the student populace, as a whole, from perhaps getting into the best schools. </p>
<p>If anyone has any other thoughts about the PA scoring then please let me know…I could be just looking for excuses for Notre Dame not being in the top 15 :)</p>
<p>Moving the 2009 admission stats to the top for NDfan 41. See post 54 for EA only.</p>
<p>Refreshing 2009 admission stats to the top.</p>
<p>Bump to the top for Mose2014.</p>
<p>thanks for the help!</p>
<p>Any indication as to what the yield was for 2009 applicants?</p>
<p>The first year class is approximately 2100, out of 3,842 admits.</p>
<p>from Notre Dame’s admissions web site, there were 4113 admits in 2009, with a yield of 2050. This is the first time ever that Notre Dame’s yield dropped below 50%.</p>
<p>The final admission number of 4113 vs. the 3842 admitted at the conclusion of regular admission would indicate that 271 students were offered admission off the waiting list as the class filled up towards the end. Clearly the economy played a big role last year in which school students could afford to attend, and the resulting yield. My S turned down large merit scholarships at Tulane, SMU and San Diego to attend ND, which offered no aid. Unfortunately, many other students could not afford to make this choice last year. Despite the added cost, we could not be happier with his experience at ND.</p>
<p>Bumping to the top for the benefit of EA deferral discussion.</p>
<p>Is there any stat for the acceptance rate of EA Deferred applicants? I didn’t see one, but I was also skimming.</p>
<p>I never saw that percentage last year, but guessed it at 50% for purposes of trying to calculate what percentage of EA applicants were accepted in total. (53% last year if 50% of the 660 deferred EA applicants got in RD)</p>