<p>ARWU</a> 2009</p>
<p>this looks about right, for the most part.</p>
<p>^Regardless of whether people like it or not, at least it doesn’t seem to have personal/nationalistic bias - the Chinese universities don’t perform well at all. It’s definitely better than UK’s Times Higher Education’s ranking that seemed to deliberately emphasize certain categories to overrate the UK schools.</p>
<p>Love it. The University of Minnesota ahead of Wash U, Northwestern, and Duke. As for prestige in Asia, and especially China, that’s probably true, though. The University of Minnesota has longstanding ties to China, and numerous alums there including many in prominent positions in business, government, and academia.</p>
<p>Let’s see: UNC Chapel Hill ahead of Vandy. Check. Pitt ahead of Carnegie Mellon. Check. University of Florida ahead of Carnegie Mellon. (Raises eyebrow ^ - ). Ohio State and Purdue ahead of Brown. (Raises other eyebrow ^ ^). Arizona State ahead of Rice and Emory. (Stifles gasp). NC state, Oregon State, UC Riverside, UC Santa Cruz, UMass Amherst all tied with Dartmouth. (Scratches head).</p>
<p>OK, take it for what it’s worth, which is probably not much. It does say something, though, about the relatively low international profile—international prestige, international status, international name recognition, whatever you want to call it—of many institutions that are considered prominent and prestigious here in the U.S. I wouldn’t necessarily decide where to go to college on that basis. But a name like Harvard, Stanford, or UC Berkeley is going to carry a lot more weight in China than a Rice, Emory, or Dartmouth. And some schools that go largely unnoticed here, like the University of Minnesota, have substantial overseas reputations. That’s worth something, too.</p>
<p>I like this list. I might actually use it when I decide where to go
(e.g. UCB > UCLA > USC). I’m applying to 10 of their top 50,
so we must be thinking somewhat alike.</p>
<p>Couple of interesting ranking quirks.</p>
<ul>
<li><p>I’m not going to sweat it if I don’t make it to Brown or Dartmouth</p></li>
<li><p>UVA is put in its rightful place (91) relative to UMich (22)</p></li>
<li><p>UCI (Univ of Chinese Immigrants 
is tied with USC</p></li>
<li><p>Indian Institute of Science is in the same bucket as San Diego State, go figure!</p></li>
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<p>Apparently new to 2009 is a “ranking by subject” category (found under RANKINGS tab on top), though only five subjects are examined: math, physics, chemistry, computer science, and economics/business.</p>
<p>Rice ranks 99. Probably people did not like Texas.</p>
<p>I don’t think that a criteria where Nobel Prize Winners that went to a school is a solid way to rank schools of learning.</p>
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Let’s look at the criteria.</p>
<p>– Nobel Prizes (Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Economics)
– Fields Medals (Math)
– Citation of faculty in 21 fields (19 of which are in science/engineering)
– Citations in Science and Nature
– Articles in Science Citation Index and Social Science Citation Index</p>
<p>This ranking is so slanted towards math and science that it’s ridiculous. Thankfully it’s produced online rather than in paper format, because it wouldn’t be valuable for anything except use as TP.</p>
<p>Perhaps math and science is more relevant in the context of the rise and fall of the fourth reich (collapse of the US economy).</p>
<p>You can only do so much servicing each other in liberal artsy ways. Ultimately, you need to eat, drink, build, and protect.</p>
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Oh, please. Science/engineering majors typically make up 1/4 (e.g. UCLA) to 1/3 (e.g. Stanford) of the students at a university at best. This ranking is helpful to the others…how?</p>
<p>wooo!
UW!</p>
<p>How-=-it tells what the smart kids are doing. Really who cares that much about whether English is 10th or 20th. Either way its grad school or latte making in your future.</p>
<p>When you add all the sciences, all engineering, social sciences and math you have more than 1/4 to 1/3 of the class at most good schools.</p>
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<p>What an ignorant and offensive statement. Look at CEO listings of college degrees. You’d be surprised.</p>
<p>Glad to see Cornell is in the top ten, globally , as it should be. It is always ranked high in international rankings. It attests to the stupidity of some of the national rankings and questions such as, “Should Cornell be an Ivy?” or Is Cornell the lowest Ivy?" </p>
<p>World class universities are recognized for many things, the least of which is whether it has land grant (state) colleges or when it was established or even its undergrad acceptance rate. </p>
<p>I do not know if this ranking is the best (is there a best?), but I do know I see many of the same schools consistently ranked high in global rankings.</p>
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While I question their relevance to an undergrad, these metrics are at least arguably valid for math and science. I do not think that any such quantitative rankings exist for humanities.</p>
<p>Frankly, I don’t understand how it is even possible to rank the strength of most fields in the humanities because they are subjective. The no-name adjunct who you emotionally connect with can probably do just as much to improve your creative writing as a Nobel-Prize-winning author.</p>
<p>Interestingly there is a similar thread on the parent forum entitled “2009 SJTU World Univ rankings released.” It is a different ranking. This one has Cornell in the top 10 of US schools and top 12 globally.</p>
<p>Another poster gave a thread that ranked Cornell top 10 for US schools, 15th globally.
The other US schools that always make the lists are the expected ones–HYP, etc. </p>
<p>Clearly Cornell should not get the bad rap it gets on CC. Or, in other words, HS students, beware of what you read on CC.</p>
<p>The CEO’s of today were in college 30 years ago. Things change. But even then English was not a common major for CEO’s. But I was talking about the job market of today. At only a handful of schools (PU being one) can an English major expect to have any shot at a good job after graduation. And most of them won’t land that job.
I’m sure you could provide me with a list of where the PU Class of '09 is today. It would be interesting.</p>
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<p>Well some chinese people made this ranking. You might disagree with it, but they don’t really care about anything outside of graduate-level math/science so it seems pretty useful from that standpoint.</p>
<p>barrons, I’m sure you could first back up your original statement with evidence that English majors are far less likely to get jobs. Statistics, that is.</p>