Interesting Top 500 World Universities rankings...

Graduate School
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<p>ARWU2007-Top</a> 500 World Universities</p>

<p>It's a bit...different.</p>

<p>What are your opinions on it? Accurate?</p>

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<p>PSU higher than UCD????
hmmmmmmm</p>

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<p>It's pretty accurate for what it intends to measure.</p>

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<p>I am not sure what their criteria is, but having Michigan State and a bunch of other lesser schools in front of Rice does not seem plausible. Now that I read their criteria I have no idea I assume every school has successful people.</p>

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<p>Well, note that this is a graduate school ranking, not an undergraduate ranking. When everyone first sees this, they usually shout something along the lines of "How is Dartmouth not in the top 100?!?" Well, Dartmouth doesn't have as strong a grad school as it does undergraduate, so it's obviously going to be lower.</p>

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<p>Yeah this is a "university" ranking system (i.e. grad programs), not an undergraduate ranking system.</p>

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<p>Cambridge better than MIT?
Oxford better than Yale</p>

<p>There were on 16th position on another chart</p>

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<p>yeah i thought this was undergrad and I was like ***...grad it seems pretty accurate though</p>

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<p>I love how U of I is above Northwestern and Duke.</p>

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<p>hmmm.. very different indeed. i didnt look too much into it but i guess if theres a method it has to make sense in some way. definetly not the modt traditional list and some on there pretty high up that i would not really think of usually. interesting..</p>

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<p>Most people will find ranking like this "ugly" as long as it doesn't agree with the US News. People will especially find this ranking hard to believe when they see some schools they thought to be "lesser" is ranked higher than their alma mater.</p>

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<p>^^ agreed!</p>

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<p>
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Well, note that this is a graduate school ranking, not an undergraduate ranking.

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More specifically, this is a science/math ranking. One that has been discussed to no end on these boards, I might add.</p>

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<p>oooooooooic if its a math and science ranking that makes sense.</p>

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<p>warbler is right. This has been discussed endlessly.</p>

<p>Basically, the methodology double counts by using both publication and high cites, and it counts almost entirely in hard sciences. I once looked up the number of high cites for a university ranked #11 or so, and found that the entire ranking rested on the backs of a few Nobel Laureates and 11 faculty members out of nearly 2,000.</p>

<p>There is an adjustment for school size, but it is small.</p>

<p>In summary, this ranking favors very large, research-oriented schools with publish or perish mindsets, and gives outsized weight to only a few faculty members.</p>

<p>It's accurate within the limits of its methodology.</p>