2010-2011 Med school applicants and their parents

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Big’uns. lol.</p>

<p>somedaughter was a varsity/national team calibre athlete in an “interesting” sport demanding incredible strength, speed, stamina, and (most of all) guts. That plus a demanding high-profile UG, an dramatically upward GPA trend, a gap year of high quality research , well…you are right. Numbers don’t tell the whole story as you well know from your Mayo experience. </p>

<p>lollybo, my D didn’t have your MCAT but she was a first day invite to Mayo for interview. A first day post-interview straight-out reject, too. lol. </p>

<p>My D had your Mayo experience at U of Chicago. </p>

<p>1) Please send money and secondary. </p>

<p>2) Receipt. Thank you.</p>

<p>3) You suck. Thx. G’bye.</p>

<p>All in 24 hours.</p>

<p>^^^ This seems to be the norm for U Chicago. I know of a couple of people this year that got shot down within hours of sending their fee, and all this from midnite to 5 AM. Makes you wonder…</p>

<p>^You are right, midnite to 5am sounds like computer generated. </p>

<p>MCAT2, thanks for U of M info.</p>

<p>^^^^^^</p>

<p>Maybe I’ll have GAdaughter send in a secondary to Chicago next year with her fee waiver. Let’s see if we can cut the rejection time down from hours to minutes!</p>

<p>Are rejections coming in emails?</p>

<p>Just signed up for “premium online addition” of USN. As a small gesture of thanks for everyone’s help, I’d be happy to share login information should you wish to access this site too; my subscription expires in April 2011. Shoot me a PM and I’ll send it back to you. (I created a separate email account for the USN website because I’m definitely not a fan of spam in my inbox, lol)</p>

<p>kristin, not to be a spoilsport…but just look up the occasional stat for folks. Don’t be giving out the login. JMO.</p>

<p>Miami, some rejections do come in emails. Some by snail mail. Some never come at all.</p>

<p>Outlook = improving. Thanks for all your help!</p>

<p>Schools with acceptance rates >4%, with in-range MCAT (avg MCAT=34.5 maximum–didn’t want to go >4 points away), with about 20% or less difference in nonresidents versus residents interview offers (where applicable) that I would like to go to (or look closer at, for schools I’ve yet to research):</p>

<p>Note: numbers in parentheses = percentage of interviewees who are accepted</p>

<p>SLU (93), UT-SW (89), Northwestern (77), UVA (64), Ohio State (64), Loyola (61), Mizzou (53), Cincinnati (50), Creighton (49), Drexel (47), Boston (43), Harvard (30)</p>

<p>Headed in the right direction, at least?</p>

<p>Kristin: Curm pretty much covered DDs EC, I think national team & collegiate All American covers it for ‘depth’ of involvement.</p>

<p>And yes, she was a paid full time researcher for the past year in a university lab (no prior research experience) with tons of clinical involvement (taking muscle samples in the OR, doing tests on the affected limbs pre-op & post-op and, best of all, cadaver studies, too (not the people who whose muscle samples she collected, they all lived! :eek: ))</p>

<p>Senior year was nearly all upper div bio with As and three of those profs were LOR writers.</p>

<p>She also did the usual shadowing, volunteering, and medically based internships.</p>

<p>DD grew up rural, lived abroad, and thinks she may very well want rural primary care, which many schools claim to be a priority. </p>

<p>We thought that despite the 29 (she has an LD and is a slow reader, all timed tests will always be a challenge, so no retake) that her unusual profile might get her some looksees.</p>

<p>She preferred the west over the east, the midwest & TX would have been vastly more desirable than anything back east. She covered every school west of the Mississippi that claimed to allow OOS kids in, she got nearly all the screened secondaries out there.</p>

<p>As I recall, interviews were WA/AZ/AZ/TX/TX/DC/VA/VA/PA and there was one more back east somewhere that has slipped my mind, but other than TX, there were only crickets from flyover country.</p>

<p>I, like you, ran the numbers and thought, well GW with 10k+ applicants only takes a small percentage, so wouldn’t the same small % at a middle of the country public or private be likely? Especially with a kid who has lived in tiny towns from childhood through high school and huge cities in university & after for work. We thought that might show that she really does understand rural v city life and they would sense a sincerity.</p>

<p>DD would have chosen TX or KS or WI or MN or CO or MO over places farther east, but that did not apparently do the trick. Your neighbouring states might be more open-minded about you.</p>

<p>DD made Mayo one of her reaches, we had read that they are not totally numbers driven, but try to be more holistic… It took 2 weeks to get her rejection, but I think that was just how long it took them to process those early applications.</p>

<p>Great points, somemom, and I’m happy to hear your daughter is happy. I’ll look in to my neighboring states, but never Kansas!!! (HUGE Mizzou/kU rivalry)</p>

<p>I’ve thought about this a little more and decided to compile a list of schools that fit my MCAT (their avg is <34.5) with “favorable” acceptance rates (>4%) and with at least “good” percentages of interviewees who are accepted (>40%). To me, this <em>may</em> represent a list of schools that I would have a reasonable shot at interviewing at, and if that happens, also have a good shot of admission. Could these be considered my “legit schools” from which I will choose 6-8, and to which I will add my reaches?</p>

<p>Mizzou, SLU, UT-Southwestern, UVa, Ohio State, Creighton, Drexel, Cincinnati, Loyola (Northwestern, Boston, and Dartmouth also appeared on this list after number crunching, but I know better than to list those as anything other than a “super-reaches” :wink: )</p>

<p>With the potential reaches to include: Mayo, Harvard, Duke, Georgetown, Northwestern, Boston</p>

<p>I forsee my next set of 13 (let’s pretend it’s my lucky number, shall we?) to be: </p>

<p>Boston, Creighton, Duke, Georgetown, Harvard, Loyola, Mayo, Mizzou, Northwestern, Ohio State, SLU, UT-Southwestern (or Drexel–I don’t know if I want to do TMDSAS), UVA</p>

<p>As always, I am willing to tweak and eager to justify. What’s the next set of revisions, CC buddies? I have tons of data at my disposal now, and would be happy to supply any more statistics.</p>

<p>kristin, what is your science GPA? And have you calculated your LizzyM score by chance? Those parameters may also give you an additional idea about where you stand numbers wise.</p>

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If you do not do texas, DS’s list of schools overlap with your list in a grand total of one school.</p>

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Somehow I feel that the percentage (93, 89, 77?) in the parenthesis in your post may be too high. Being a lazy bone myself, I do not bother to look it up. (Yes, I have access to USN also. But I have looked it up briefly for, say, 5 times only.)</p>

<p>Depends on how AMCAS treats my school’s GPA, but it should be 3.8 +/- .03, with my cumulative GPA approximately the same (at least, within the same ranges). Haven’t calculated LizzyM (like I said earlier, SDN practically gives me a heart attack! haha!), but my MCAT was a 30, with a split of 9P, 11V, 10B, writing = S.</p>

<p>And haha MCAT2, at least he’s one less competitor out there :wink: Dare I ask which school overlaps? And nope, numbers were double-checked (SLU and UTSW were triple-checked with different calculators).</p>

<p>kristin, UVA. His high schoolmate went to UVA for undergraduate, so he think it must be good. His thinking is often quite simplistic: “If someone I know goes there and does not complain, that school and its environment must be good enough for me.” </p>

<p>He once said maybe a somewhat lower ranked medical school is a better fit for him. I do not know he still thinks this way today.</p>

<p>I’ll be starting at UVA’s med school in 1.5 weeks, so let me know if you guys have any questions!</p>

<p>And it’s a great school!! And relatively friendly OOS.</p>

<p>Steeler, congrats. It’s actually UVA that got me started on CC in the first place–I was a national finalist for the Jefferson Scholarship in 2007 and came here to learn about selection weekend. Your name’s ringing lots of bells from that forum; seems like we’ve crossed cyber paths before.</p>

<p>Would that little piece–that I was a national finalist for a Jeff (named an alternate, couldn’t wait to hear if I’d make it for other reasons, ended up at my current school)–be worth mentioning on my secondary for UVA?</p>

<p>There is a why UVa essay and you could certainly bring up a longtime love for Charlottesville based on previous research and visits but the actual Jeff alternate…IMO no. </p>

<p>My kid told them she liked the Dave Matthews Band. ;)</p>