<p>St. Georges over Groton? Really? How so</p>
<p>Lvillegrad - I’ve thought a lot about the careful and interesting matriculation stats you and your son prepared. I’ve also watched you regularly post disclaimers stating that “there are many other relevant criteria when selecting a school.” Unfortunately, we Americans are obsessed with “Best Of” designations and stats are more important to the typical CC Prep Schoolers and their parents than unquantifiable differences. </p>
<p>It would be an interesting study to examine the decision process of 20 families whose children were academically advanced and emotionally secure, but who knew nothing about boarding schools, make decisions based only on interviews, visits, revisits, talking to alumni etc. I wonder if their choices would reflect the spread of your Best Of list. Perhaps, but perhaps not.</p>
<p>St. Georges and Lawrenceville? Nah…! I’d bump them both for Groton and Thacher. :)</p>
<p>Lawrenceville has better matriculation stats than Thacher. L’ville is celebrating it’s 200th anniversary this year. It is closer to NYC. On top of it all, it is in NJ.</p>
<p>Lawrenceville does have a lot of ups on Thacher, as pulsar pointed out. And Blueraven, don’t get me wrong, I think Groton is a great school, but St. Georges is hard to beat.</p>
<p>Yes, L’ville has some ups on Thacher, but being in NJ ain’t one of 'em.</p>
<p>what does being closer to nyc have to do with anything? thacher’s closer to LA… it’s probably closer to beijing, too, if you want to go there…</p>
<p>ps: i’d rather be in california than in NJ… but that might just be me. ; )</p>
<p>Groton: Average Percentile SSAT 90%, Endowment Size $224 million , Average SAT Score 2080 and acoording to Lvillegrades College matriculation list consistently places in the top 3 or 4 after PA, PEA and SPS for Ivy and top school placement.</p>
<p>St. Georges: Average SAT Score 1900, Endowment Size $115 million, Average Percentile SSAT 81%. Don’t know how they rank matric wise.</p>
<p><em>all stats are from Boarding School Review</em></p>
<p>I know I’m vehnemently defending Groton but I feel it gets slighted on this board quite a bit.</p>
<p>blueraven, no one is saying Groton is a bad school. Even though it may not get the attention the HADES get, that doesn’t make it not as good. It is a good school, and good luck there next year!</p>
<p>Hahaha thank you 
I’m sorry it’s just annoying me that people keep calling it 2nd tier. I guess I feel a little slighted seeing as I was accepted to HADES as well and Groton had just as low acceptance rates.</p>
<p>you can find a general comparison between the schools in the boarding school review.</p>
<p>Compare Boarding Schools - Boarding School Review</p>
<p>The following data are from boarding school revuew</p>
<p>Endowment per student reflects the financial aspect more accurately.
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1 Phillips Academy (Exeter) NH 0.479 4 1
1 Groton School MA 0.554 2 3
3 St. Paul’s School NH 0.767 1 5
4 Phillips Academy (Andover) MA 0.473 5 2
5 Deerfield Academy MA 0.468 6 5
5 Hotchkiss School CT 0.541 3 8
7 Lawrenceville Academy NJ 0.236 12 5
8 Peddie NJ 0.391 7 19
9 Milton Academy MA 0.150 26 3
9 Woodberry Forest VA 0.376 8 21
9 Choate Rosemary Hall CT 0.215 19 10
12 Middlesex MA 0.218 17 14
13 Saint Mark’s School MA 0.280 10 17
14 Thacher School CA 0.222 16 17
15 Emma Williard NY 0.231 17 32
16 Episcopal High VA 0.234 13 21
17 Taft School CT 0.224 15 20
17 Mercersburg Academy PA 0.303 9 26
19 Cate School CA 0.189 22 30
20 Noble and Greenough School MA 0.084 36 9
20 Loomis Chaffee School CT 0.132 27 18
20 St. George’s School RI 0.270 11 34
23 Concord Academy MA 0.080 38 9
24 Miss Porter’s School CT 0.225 14 34
25 Belmont Hill School MA 0.070 41 9
26 Governor Dummer MA 0.151 25 27
27 Webb school (TN) TN 0.072 39 14
28 Westover School CT 0.179 24 30
29 Westminster School CT 0.197 21 33
30 Blair Academy NJ 0.105 29 27 </p>
<h1>Boarding School Avg. SAT score </h1>
<ol>
<li>Thomas Jefferson 2150 </li>
<li>Phillips Exeter 2085 </li>
<li>Groton School 2080 </li>
<li>Phillips Academy 2076 </li>
<li>St. Paul’s School 2075 </li>
<li>Middlesex School 2070 </li>
<li>Milton Academy 2065 </li>
<li>Concord Academy 2040 </li>
<li>Deerfield Academy 2020 </li>
<li>The Hockaday School 2020 </li>
<li>The Hotchkiss School 2013 </li>
<li>Peddie School 2000 </li>
<li>St. Andrew’s School, 1999 </li>
<li>Lawrenceville School 1998 </li>
<li>Choate Rosemary Hall 1981 </li>
<li>St. Mark’s School 1970 </li>
<li>Cate School 1970 </li>
<li>The Thacher School 1970 </li>
<li>Indian Springs 1965 </li>
<li>Georgetown Preparatory 1950 </li>
<li>The Loomis Chaffee 1945 </li>
<li>The Taft School 1925 </li>
<li>St. Stephen’s Episcopal 1924 </li>
<li>Episcopal High 1922 </li>
<li>The Webb Schools 1920 </li>
<li>Saint James School 1910 </li>
<li>Oregon Episcopal 1910 </li>
<li>Miss Porter’s School 1908 </li>
<li>St. George’s School 1900 </li>
<li>The Athenian School 1900 </li>
<li>The Webb School 1894 </li>
<li>Emma Willard School 1892 </li>
<li>Cranbrook Schools 1891 </li>
<li>The Masters School 1890 </li>
<li>Santa Catalina 1886 </li>
<li>Lustre Christian High 1885 </li>
<li>Salem Academy 1880 </li>
<li>Stevenson School 1880 </li>
<li>Linden Hall 1860 </li>
<li>Asheville School 1860 </li>
<li>Dana Hall School 1854 </li>
<li>Tabor Academy 1850 </li>
<li>Westover School 1850 </li>
<li>Miss Hall’s School 1850 </li>
<li>St. Anne’s-Belfield 1848 </li>
<li>Woodberry Forest 1847 </li>
<li>The Stony Brook 1841 </li>
<li>Hill School 1840 </li>
<li>Saint Andrew’s 1839 </li>
<li>Mercersburg Academy 1830 </li>
</ol>
<h1>Boarding School Avg. SSAT score </h1>
<ol>
<li>Phillips Academy 93% </li>
<li>Milton Academy 90% </li>
<li>Groton School 90% </li>
<li>Georgetown Preparatory 90% </li>
<li>Deerfield Academy 88% </li>
<li>Middlesex School 87% </li>
<li>St. Andrew’s School, 83% </li>
<li>The Hotchkiss School 83% </li>
<li>The Thacher School 83% </li>
<li>St. Mark’s School 82% </li>
<li>The Taft School 82% </li>
<li>Lawrenceville School 81% </li>
<li>St. George’s School 81% </li>
<li>Cate School 80% </li>
<li>Colorado Rocky Mountain 80% </li>
<li>Concord Academy 80% </li>
<li>St. Albans School 80% </li>
<li>Episcopal High 80% </li>
<li>The Loomis Chaffee 79% </li>
<li>Linden Hall 78% </li>
<li>Hill School 77% </li>
<li>The Governor’s Academy
(formerly Governor Dummer 75% </li>
<li>Lake Forest Academy 74% </li>
<li>Kent School 73% </li>
<li>Indian Springs 70% </li>
<li>Peddie School 70% </li>
<li>Miss Porter’s School 70% </li>
<li>Blair Academy 70% </li>
<li>CFS, The School at Church 70% </li>
<li>Westminster School 70% </li>
<li>Northfield Mount Hermon 67% </li>
<li>Stevenson School 67% </li>
<li>Westtown School 67% </li>
<li>Cranbrook Schools 66% </li>
<li>Woodberry Forest 66% </li>
<li>Holderness School 65% </li>
<li>Portsmouth Abbey 65% </li>
<li>Brooks School 65% </li>
<li>Lawrence Academy 65% </li>
<li>Emma Willard School 65% </li>
<li>Tabor Academy 65% </li>
<li>Canterbury School 64% </li>
<li>Pomfret School 62% </li>
<li>Dana Hall School 62% </li>
<li>Westover School 61% </li>
<li>Midland School 61% </li>
<li>The Ethel Walker 60% </li>
<li>Avon Old Farms 60% </li>
<li>Foxcroft School 60%</li>
</ol>
<p>Wow, sorry blueraven for my ignorance.It appears Groton deserves to be in the top 10 and probably the top 5. I have a very limited inteliigence regarding prep schools.</p>
<p>yes st.georges used to be a very elite school but has fallen upon hard times
also you put RL in your list which is a day school not a boarding school
also i am biased but how is milton any better than MX</p>
<p>I was just refering to prep schools, not just boarding schools.</p>
<p>No problem but you can see why I get a little upset when people start debating whether or not it’s ‘2nd tier’ and it consistently gets overlooked in favor of schools who statistically speaking are nowhere near Groton. :)</p>
<p>^ haha, yeah. i adore loomis, but… it’s ridiculous to classify groton and loomis in the same “tier”, because they’re really nothing alike…</p>
<p>The percentages may be skewed when comparing a smaller school with a larger school. Many NYC prep schools like collegiate trump HADES when you look at ivy placement % etc.</p>
<p>I don’t get what you’re saying about size skewing percent? Groton is a really small school and does fine… THe whole point of percents is that they aren’t effected by size right? Mabye they just didn’t include Ny day schools?</p>
<p>if you include RL than you have to include Horace mann, Harvard-westlake, collegiate, brearley all of which would completely mess up that ranking because their Ivy matriculation are all rival to if in some cases better than HADES</p>
<p>no, i think pulsar means that the smaller the school, the more advantageous. i can see why… more individualized attention, especially if you’re struggling, maybe you’d know your counselor/teachers better, since it’s a small school, close knit, etc = better recs, and so forth</p>
<p>@ HCOS: it’s pretty hard to beat brearley’s matriculation, haha…</p>