<p>And the nominees are......:</p>
<p>I don’t get this. How come two 2010ers I know who both got perfect scores single-sitting aren’t here? Is there something you have to submit to be eligible for this?</p>
<p>EDIT: Never mind, found them both!</p>
<p>sunmachine,
Please tell me what this list represents. Who are Presidential Scholars? How are they selected?</p>
<p>I just realized that I was on this list. What is it?</p>
<p>^ A list of those eligible to become Presidential Scholars. They use standardized test scores to determine who’s eligible. The cut-off is very high, in many states it’s 1600 M+V; there are ACT cutoffs as well.</p>
<p>There’s also the Presidential Scholar of the Arts. Those are marked with an asterisk on the list. You had to be invited to the YoungArts program in Miami last week in order to be eligible for nomination. Out of 6000 applications, they chose 142 for Miami and out of those 152, they nominated between 50-60 for PSA.</p>
<p>do they factor in writing as well? As I know someone who had 2370 with a 770 on writing.</p>
<p>No, they do not use the writing component.</p>
<p>DS is on the list!! However, I just looked at the app, and there ain’t no way he’s writing all those essays. He has told me clearly that he is <em>done</em> with that stuff. The odds of actually becoming a scholar are not high, it seems.</p>
<p>Does anyone know how many nominees there are?</p>
<p>They nominate the top 20 boys and top 20 girls from each state (plus ties) based on SAT M and V.</p>
<p>Thanks, sunmachine. I posted the link on the Parents forum as I know they would be interested.</p>
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<p>I’m not really sure what the first paragraph means. Does anyone know what the state cut-offs usually are? Which states need a 1600? Any hope for a 1570?</p>
<p>i got it with a 1580</p>
<p>I was reading that 2-3 kids in our state get a perfect ACT at each sitting. Times how many sittings per year, and they take the last 2 year’s (ish)scores . Combined with the number that must get a perfect SAT each sitting, times the number of tests over those two years (I don’t remember the dates…OCt 2007-Oct 2009?)…I’m pretty sure nearly all states would require perfect scores. FYI Re: 20 girls and 20 boys per state - when there is a tie they take more. I can see that happens. I mean, there HAVE to be more than 20 of each perfect scores in each state. What I wonder is whether is how they make the score. I know the change SAT into ACT. But…obviously all these kids would have a 36 (nearly all). So…do they use the individual scores added up? Meaning…if a child had a 35,35,36,36 subscore = 36 composite. But does a 36, 36, 36, 36 “win” over the first 36? Just wonderin’. The website gives a lot of info on how they select, but not this much detail. The people who I know on the list definitely got perfect scores. One of them had a 2400 AND a 36. Yowza!</p>
<p>Looking at that list I completely unexpectedly found my son on it. Thanks!</p>
<p>Now I suppose I should ask – what is a “Presidential Scholar?”</p>
<p>R12… Great state to state variability, just like NMSF.</p>
<p>My state did not require perfect scores, in fact, far from it I think.</p>
<p>Wow, I find it hard to believe that ANY state didn’t have 20 girls and 20 boys with perfect scores in either the SAT or ACT. </p>
<p>MilwDad: Here is a good link.<br>
[U.S</a>. Presidential Scholars Program](<a href=“http://www.ed.gov/programs/psp/index.html]U.S”>U.S. Presidential Scholars Program)</p>
<p>Basically…it’s the top 20 boys and top 20 girls who scored highest in each state on the SAT or th eACT. There is no scholarship money. But, from those who submit an application there is a winnowing process and the top 2 kids from each state (one boy and one girl) get an all expense paid trip to DC in the summer to get their award! How cool is THAT? Who knows what it can lead to. Example: our current state governor won this award back in his day…it’s a VERY nice feather in your cap. Good luck to y’all!</p>
<p>My state requires perfect V+M in a single sitting. I guess unless you advance further, being a PSC does not mean much as far as college admissions go, because the selection of PSC is solely based on the SAT/ACT scores which the colleges you applied to already have.</p>
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<p>Frankly, I’d be surprised if a single kid in my state got 800/800 in single sitting. </p>
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<p>True, however, it gives context to that less than perfect score as it applies to your in-state peers. But adcoms probably knew that already too.</p>
<p>Where can I get a copy of the application?</p>
<p>I think they mailed a letter to all nominees yesterday. I’m sure that letter has all the needed info.</p>