2012-2013 Med school applicants and their parents

<p>I’m waiting for my beach front condo.</p>

<p>WOWM, better the backpack went off the cliff than…well, you know!</p>

<p>^^[in long-suffering parental whine] teeeeelllllll me about it. </p>

<p>She was gonna jump the gap anyway even after the pack went off the ledge and waaaaaayyyyyyy down. Only her climbing partner’s insistence and good sense talked her out of it.</p>

<p>All I can say is the fear of dying gene must have skipped a generation. I have a very healthy respect for the forces of nature (like gravity).</p>

<p>*He applied to 12-16 schools…not exactly sure of the final number. </p>

<p>So, within the last 24 hours, supplementals from…</p>

<p>UAB
SLU
NYU
UMiami
Case
Emory</p>

<p>Also applied to:
Tulane
USA
Vandy
Loyola-Chicago
Creighton
Einstein</p>

<h1>and a few more that I’m blanking on…*</h1>

<p>Update to the above 6 requests…</p>

<p>Yesterday (the day after Labor Day), more supplemental requests came in:</p>

<p>Vandy
Creighton
Temple
Einstein</p>

<p>Don’t know why he hasn’t yet heard from Tulane or USA yet…hmmm.</p>

<p>He has his Committee Interview today…his LORs are very good (one was very touching!) so his Committee Letter should be a good one. Son is very personable and genuinely charming (no fakey stuff), so the CI should go well. </p>

<p>Fingers crossed!!! </p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Is it fair to say that once admission to med school is obtained, the student will be successful and finish the program? Just wondering about the failure/dropout rate, if any, in medical school.</p>

<p>At most schools , the failure rate is very small. At my D’s school, every student that started with her is still there in MS3.</p>

<p>Med. School supports the students a lot, even adjust exam schedule to make it more possible to pass. However, there are personal (family) circumstances that lead to dropout / break in study. Some come back later on.</p>

<p>DD has seen a few students stretch their program, if you are not passing your exams, you have to remediate that. If a student fails one exam, they can retake it, DD has seen that happen to many people and it seems to be treated as no big deal. I don’t know if it is noted as a black mark behind the scenes or not.</p>

<p>If a person is repeatedly failing a class or is failing many classes, admin seems to feel they should take fewer classes at one time, stretching the first two years of class work over three. Failing one exam happened to many of her friends the first term as they all dealt with how each person best should study to take in so much information in a short period of time. Many of these smart kids had not had to study like that before and had to come up with new techniques. After that adjustment the only failures she heard about were people with distracting life situations. The med student is too busy to have drama in their life and it is a real killer. Even if they don’t drop out, they certainly spend an extra year’s tuition and living expenses.</p>

<p>My class of 104 lost 3 (2 left completely and the other is joining the class of '16) and picked up 1 (who had taken time off between M1 and M2 but passed all M1 exams) this summer. At least at my school, once you’re here, if you want to graduate, you will.</p>

<p>So, what is the scoop with supplementals?</p>

<p>Do you get them from EVERY school that you applied to as long as you meet their set minimum req’ts?</p>

<p>Should son expect one from every school that he applied to?</p>

<p>Son just texted me…URoch just sent the supplemental request.</p>

<p>I’m still not sure of all that he applied to…looks like he’s missing requests from Tulane, USA, Loyola Chicago and maybe a couple I’m not remembering? Have no idea why USA hasn’t sent one yet…that’s kind of his “safety” (even tho I know that there really isn’t such a thing…but being instate and with his stats, he should get an acceptance per his advisor.)</p>

<p>He ended up not applying to any Texas SOMs…he just didn’t feel that he really had a chance at more than 1 or 2. He was already behind getting the AMCAS apps in so he felt that the Texas process would be late.</p>

<p>The majority of secondaries are automatic, but whether they’re sent out quickly or it takes awhile seems to vary somewhat.</p>

<p>Some secondaries are screened. I think D1 had only 2 screened secondaries; so some people are denied pre-secondary at those schools. I’m not sure, but I think some screened secondaries are done automatically based on gpa/MCAT, but others are reviewed more comprehensively. Old timers, please correct me if I’m wrong on that.</p>

<p>I’m not familiar with the schools you’ve listed, so I don’t know if they screen secondaries or not.</p>

<p>Ahh…</p>

<p>thanks Entomom! It does seem to be rather automatic, but wondering if there were some initial screening of stats. </p>

<p>it’s kind of painful to remember the stories from others that after submitting supplementals and more money, the rejections can come quickly…the UChicago stories are awful…it’s as if they just use the process to bring in more money.</p>

<p>Son called and said that his Committee Interview went very well. He thought he would dread it, but it was very enjoyable. The committee was very positive.</p>

<p>Also, USA’s and Loyola’s supplemental requests came in this afternoon.</p>

<p>So, now just missing a couple (I think).</p>

<p>We now have 7 interviews in the next 2 months! We are accepting all interview invites but it seems like soooo much traveling. Our state med school has not started interviewing regular applicants (they are doing early decision folks) so we are hopeful for one more. D flew back to school last night from her first interview and was delayed at the airport for 3 hours. And it begins…</p>

<p>^Congrats on all the IIs! </p>

<p>We’re in the same boat w/our IS public, still no movement on IIs, although they don’t have ED.</p>

<p>I think Vandy screens for secondaries. Wake and UNC do as well. Temple, NYU, and UMiami do not. Don’t know about the others.</p>

<p>CONGRATS on all the interviews Krug! Much easier to get them all done upfront…makes it easier for finals and bad winter weather.</p>

<p>Kat
Our in-state public was the one son heard from in early August with an August interview and was NOT ED, although school does have ED.</p>

<p>Thanks, ento. Good luck to your kiddo in this cycle. Cannot imagine doing this more than once. For those that do, WOW! that’s persistence and grit. </p>

<p>We heard about an applicant with over 10 (may be 12) interviews and only 1 acceptance, with multiple rejections and spots on waitlists that did not move. So scary… You would think that chances of acceptance would be good if the school wants to meet you.</p>

<p>For D1s schools, acceptance rates for those interviewed ranges from about 25% to over 60% (and that’s not our IS public). Quite a few of them seem to be right around a third of interviewees accepted.</p>

<p>And if you want to hear about a lesson in persistence— there’s a fellow in D1’s med school class who applied SEVEN TIMES before he was accepted.</p>

<p>(He had great stats too. MCAT >35 and GPA>3.6)</p>

<p>^
WOWM, if you had to take a guess, why do you think it took him 7 cycles with those stats?</p>

<p>7 cycles???</p>

<p>can you imagine how much he’s spent on the interview process??? yikes!!!</p>

<p>He’s older (30 something), has a wife and 4 kids and desperately wanted to stay here in town to attend the local med school. The kids are all in school here and his wife has a very good career-type job. He was reluctant to uproot everyone just so he could pursue his dream. So he just kept applying and re-applying to the state school. </p>

<p>I’m not sure if he applied elsewhere or not.</p>

<p>It didn’t help his cause that he was a white male from an advantaged background who lacked most of the typical pre-med ECs, including much community service–which the adcomm here values highly. </p>

<p>D1 says he’s stellar student–ranked in the top 3–and a bit of gunner.</p>