<p>Oh…so he suicided each year.</p>
<p>Quite the determined applicant!</p>
<p>m2ck, what do you mean by this: .so he suicided each year. And what med school is USA?</p>
<p>Why is it I knew a whole lot more about the undergraduate schools than the med schools? It’s hard to find a lot of information about them, other than just a few blurbs/summaries in books like the MSAR and photos on the websites. I think that’s why one picks schools based on reputation. I have also had dificulty finding what the school’s predominant focus in their research studies seems to be. I have heard of schools that are well known for XXX research, but I can’t find much supporting evidence. Why is that?</p>
<p>And I can’t seem to find a list of schools that’s well known for the most basic difference: whether the school is known for its research vs clinical. How does one find those things? (One possible way is to find how much NIH gave to that school, but are there other ways?)</p>
<p>Separate rankings for research, primary care, internal med, etc.:</p>
<p>[Best</a> Medical Schools | Top Medical Schools | US News Best Graduate Schools](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools]Best”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools)</p>
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<p>Some of this type of info is available at USNews (subscription required).</p>
<p>The other option is to do a affiliation search in PubMed. To do that use the Advanced Search function, choose Affiliation from the slider on left under field and type the name of medical school in the text box to the right.</p>
<p>(Medical librarian speaking…I do this all the time.)</p>
<p>You’ll get a list of the most recent papers published by medical faculty and will give a you good idea of the exact fields of research that are hot there.</p>
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<p>USA = University of South Alabama</p>
<p>“Suicided each year” , in this case, means he applied to one school only.</p>
<p>if you look at the usrankings for best research med schools… could you extrapolate that for best md/phd if they have that program??</p>
<p>Uhhhh…yes. Sorta kinda in a way. But maybe more field specific as many MD/PhD students already have their field identified. Another way to define MudPhud is by MSTP. Are they or aren’t they? IOW, follow the money i.e. student funding. Fully funded throughout? Or just for the PhD years?</p>
<p>thanks curm… he’s already looking primarily at mstp programs but i was trying to determine how to rank those (if even necessary to do so 
) i think there are 44-45 mstp programs? he certainly cant apply to 44 programs so wondering if a ranking would be a factor in which to schools to apply to or to create a possible list… agree his area of research interest will be a big factor too.</p>
<p>and a dumb question… is there even such a thing as a safety for mstp?? his current school has an mstp program but they only take 8 with no preference for instate or their own undergrads…with the small number of acceptances per program, it is going to take alot of digging to select which to apply to.</p>
<p>No such thing aas safety for MSTP. Many programs accept only 1-3 students a year.</p>
<p>BTW, there are fully funded MD/PhD programs that aren’t thru NSF/NIH. Many schools run their own. This is an option he could also investigate.</p>
<p>I would suggest that once your son has identified his area of research interest, that he talk with his profs in that area and see which research groups they think highly of. He should also being doing literature searches (in PubMed, Nature, Science, specialized subfield journals) to identify schools that are active in his research field.</p>
<p>For MD/PhD programs (like straight PhD programs), it’s not so much the reputation of the whole program one should be concerned about, but identifying the individual areas of research strengths at various schools and finding the profs who your son would like work with. Because a good mentor/strong research group–probably the best thing your son could do for himself in terms of his future career.</p>
<p>wowmom… confirmed what i thought… he has already had discussions with his research mentor re other schools and other research groups…so developing some ideas. he is looking at other programs (funding) also</p>
<p>Parent56, my D is a first year MD/PhD student. I would definitely agree with WOWMom that finding programs that are strong in the research areas of interest is more important than the overall ranking. We also observed that it seemed to be important for the applicant’s stats to be a good match for the school–schools with stats that were fairly significantly below D’s sometimes didn’t interview her. As WOWMom said…no such thing as a safety for MSTP.</p>
<p>There is an interesting thread on SDN called Compilation of MSTP Programs with average GPA/MCAT/Ranking/GPP/Stipend within the Physician Scientist forum. They’re trying to compile current info for the various programs, including average MCAT, GPA, stipend, etc. It isn’t complete yet, but it does have a lot of information in one place.</p>
<p>thank you shyparentalunit…</p>
<p>DD just got verified. Here we go bring on the secondarys!</p>
<p>after lots of posts on sdn decided to try this site</p>
<p>Applied to a lot of schools ,35. I will probably add on another 6 schools for fun, after I am complete at all my initial schools. Submitted AMCAS on 7/3. Verified AMCAS on 8/17. Submitted TMDSAS on 5/14. Verified TMDSAS on 5/18. </p>
<p>Had 2 interviews in Texas in early August. Haven’t heard anything from any other Texas Schools since then. The first texas school i interviewed at accepts 70 percent of those interviewed, the second accepts 60 percent of those interviewed. As a result, my chances of getting into BOTH schools should be a 42 percent, but I am not taking any chances, so I applied to a lot of schools. </p>
<p>Complete at all but 5 of my schools. Still got 5 secondaries to finish</p>
<p>Got LOR from Mayo, surprised, thought I would be rejected straight out. Got secondary from Wake, they pre-screen, 2000 recieve secondary compared to 7500 that apply. Got small pooled at Medical College of Wisconsin, they small pool like 30 percent of initial applicants. Got secondary from Wayne State, surprised since I am OOS for this school and they pre-screen. Rejected at BU, saw this one coming a mile away, oh well, at least I got an LOR from my other reach school, Mayo.</p>
<p>Expecting to be rejected post-LOR from Mayo in a couple of weeks. This is a dream school and a huge reach for me. </p>
<p>Hopefully I can get in somewhere this year. Good GPA, Great EC’s, Great LOR’s, Average mcat.</p>
<p>Good luck to every1 else this year.</p>
<p>Contact your other Texas schools and verify that you are complete. Something sounds funky. Check your spam filter, too. And BTW, which two Texas schools?</p>
<p>Lima…</p>
<p>sorry took awhile to respond. Yes, “suicided” means applying to only one school that cycle.</p>
<p>USA is the “other” medical school in Alabama …University of South Alabama. The more well-known med school in the state is UAB. </p>
<p>Rise…what do you mean by “got LOR from Mayo”. I’m only familiar with the acrohnym Letter of Recommendation, but from your context it sounds like something else.</p>
<p>^Mayo’s a little different than other schools. You submit AMCAS. They do not have a secondary, but their way of telling you you’ve moved onto the next step is for them to “request your recommendation letters,” which is actually kind of crazy considering they already have them (assuming your letters were uploaded to AMCAS already). From there, they can invite you for an interview or reject you. Their interview’s lots of fun because a) it’s at Mayo, which is as gorgeous as it is huge and b) it’s a small interview group (4?) with applicants who are, in my experience, quite impressive. After the interviews it’s the same as other rolling-admission schools.</p>
<p>So, riseagainst made it past the first screen, which some say is the biggest screen. Others say the biggest screen is LOR > interview. Their class is 52–50 MD, 2 MD/oral-maxillofacial surgery–they accept 50 and waitlist 50. I believe in 2010 they interviewed 350-400. (I ended up on the waitlist)</p>
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<p>A&M interviewed me on their first interview date. UTMB interviewed me on their first interview date. UT-San Antonio has not interviewed me but I have a confirmation from them. UT-Houston has not interviewed me but I have a confirmation from them. UTSW and Baylor are huge reaches for me because my mcat is just average. For Texas Tech El Paso, I applied MD/MPH so I don’t know if that makes a difference. Texas Tech Lubbock, I applied combined MD/MBA. For the MD/MBA program they told me that they only interview a few of those during each interview date because those students have to go through 2 MD interviews and 1 MBA interview on the same day. Their problem is finding enough people to interview MBA candidates. I know that both the Texas Tech schools have sent out interviews for both of their combined degree programs. However, if they don’t want me for combined degree programs, I still would like to interview for their MD. </p>
<p>Should I be worried about Texas schools? Should I continue waiting for an interview or start sending out interest letters. UT-Houston has a lot of interview slots still left according to SDN. UT-San Antonio is just now starting to fill their November interview slots which worries me! I was thinking about sending UT San Antonio an interest letter. UT-San Antonio started sending out interviews at the end of July I think. UT-Houston just started sending out interviews in early August, so I could wait before I email them. My mcat is just average so I am not a priority applicant for any medical school.</p>
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<p>After my LOR request, I called Mayo to ask about their stats. 4000 apply, roughly 20 percent (800) get LOR requests, 250 are interviewed, 75 are accepted. I know I am not going to get in, but I applied because it is a dream school. Personally I think the biggest screen is going from LOR to interview. Congrats on that kristen 5792. If you don’t mind me asking where did you get in for medical school? </p>
<p>Some people say that just getting an LOR request from Mayo is a sign that you might get in somewhere. I hope that is the case, because I am scared I won’t get in anywhere and its only September of this application cycle. I have made the first cut at all the schools that prescreen with their secondary that I applied to. I hope I can get in somewhere this year, but if I don’t I am still working hard in my classes and working hard in my research lab to crank out more publications. </p>
<p>You guys think I should add more schools? I have 35 right now. I was planning on adding another 6-15. I used SDN to have all my secondaries prewritten, except for 5. I can start prewriting secondaries for the other schools I start adding. Money is not a problem for my parents as long as I get into medical schools.</p>
<p>My parents are not doctors. I don’t have any brothers or sisters, so I have no alumni connection to any medical schools. I am a white male from Texas.</p>
<p>If you are getting interview invites already, I am note sure why you would pay for more apps? If you get 6-12 interviews, that should cover it.</p>
<p>Kristen5792 thank-you for the help. I tried pming you back but apparently I can’t send any pms until I have 15 posts lol. Once I get to that many, I will send you some of my questions. Once again, thanks for reaching out.</p>
<p>Somemom, the reason that I am considering applying to more is because I have only gotten 2 interviews so far. After my August interviews I have not heard anything from Texas where I have been complete at all schools since 5/18. As a result, I don’t know if I have reason to worry. </p>
<p>Apparently Texas schools won’t tell me about my acceptances until 2/1 during the match. Texas schools start pre-match offers in Nov 15, but I don’t think any of the schools I interviewed at will give me a pre-match because my mcat is just average, so I am not a priority for them. As a result, if I have to wait until 2/1 for my decision from Texas schools then by then it is way too late at add any more schools to save myself this cycle.</p>
<p>Praying I don’t have to reapply and I am praying I can get some more publications this year in case I do have to reapply. I will try to crank out those review articles out like a boss this year and update all my schools about them.</p>