<p>They think she would be a better resident than student and did not want to mess up their chances of recruiting her later. :p</p>
<p>btw, I did hear of a program outside of match for combined residency and fellowship in IM and cardiology. Someone we know got in last year and went to that other school in Boston instead.</p>
<p>yeah, the combined residency/fellowship stuff can get tricky. There is no system for handling it the way NRMP handles the residencies (or even the traditional fellowship match). Even within a program there can be variation such as guaranteed fellowship for the less competitive ones but not the more competitive ones.</p>
<p>Curm, “My kid is still hoping for that Stanford interview”
-Mine also most likely will apply to the place that completely ignored her. She does not care, it is close to home so she will apply and most likely will be ignored again. In her case it is U of M. No applying outside of certain circle again. The circle will be much larger though, the list will definitely be huge. But it is very much in a future, no thinking about it at all besides some general idea.</p>
<p>My son got an interview invite from Yale this afternoon as he was walking out of his UVA interview. If anybody else is waiting on Yale, the first available date was Oct 23rd and there were plenty of open dates in November. It goes to show that it is still very early in the cycle, especially for the top non-rolling schools and there is no reason for anybody to give up hope or panic yet.</p>
<p>I will write a bit more about my son’s UVA interview since I know there are more folks here with an invite from UVA. According to my son, his interview went “pretty well”. There were two open-file interviews; one with a faculty and the other with a student (MSAR says its two faculty interviews). Both were stress free. According to him facilities were all great and their new curriculum was decent. But clinical exposure (unlike at OSU - the other school he interviewed at), comes late in the second year. Overall he came out with a positive experience. October 16th is the decision day for him.</p>
<p>Congrats to your S, again.</p>
<p>I also heard many NE schools are relatively late especiaally in their admission.</p>
<p>I guess it is pouring now Kal!</p>
<p>IWBB - How does one apply to these combined residency/fellowships? Are there more offered in other places?</p>
<p>There are combined/integrated residency & fellowship programs for surgical specialties–like CT surgery, vascular surgery, plastics. The programs shave one year off the training period for these specialties.</p>
<p>They are also common for medical subspecialties although there they do not save time but rather shift one year of general internal medicine training to the end of the program and it is protected research time (in fact many schools call them “research track” programs instead of “fast track” programs). These programs are of course particularly popular among MD/PhD graduates as the final year is good for gathering data in the hopes of getting a K08/making the jump to assistant professor. So for example with cardiology, instead of doing 3 years of IM and 3 years of cardio, you would do 2 years of IM, 3 years of cardio, then have your final year with just one day in clinic/week and the rest of your time could be spent doing research.</p>
<p>There is no central database of these programs, you have to use SDN/look at each individual program/google: <a href=“internal medicine fast track residency - Google Search”>internal medicine fast track residency - Google Search;
<p>Most now have them listed as a separate designation on NRMP, some you just apply to the IM program but with either a verbal (or preferably written guarantee) that if you match there you’re automatically in for your fellowship. I believe the latter is generally disappearing in favor of the former.</p>
<p>I quit. This all just so beyond me. How archaic. How confuddled. How cumbersome.</p>
<p>IWBB - Are the combined programs at the residency level always tied into doing research?</p>
<p>@ Curm, you are not alone. I can see that IWBB writes in English, but my interpretation is in some language that does not exist. </p>
<p>What an awesome thing that I am not the one applying to these kind of specialities!</p>
<p>Actually looking a little closer, I think all the medicine/fellowship combined programs are research oriented.</p>
<p>I am glad that D. is not too much into research, sounds complicated.
She is not too much into IM either, but will have to have it for at least one year, unless her plans change. So much could change in next few months! One thing she is very happy about is that surgery rotation is behind her. Her attitude is so much noticably more positive after it was over. And her current rotation is also at the place where people are coming from all over (including abroad), so she is seeing very interesting and much more complicated cases than she would have a chance at another place. Yesterday it was interesting episode. The doc said that there is no point for her to visit the next appointment because they will be speaking in foreign language and she will not understand anything. She goes, I know it well to understand…and she understood everything to her surprise since it was lots of medical terminology. Was not Spanish either.
Saying to all pre-meds who happen to read here. Learn languages, learn instead of some advanced math, science, use all opportunites, not just by taking classes. Very useful!!</p>
<p>DS has almost completed his IM rotation at two places, I think. Occasionally he had night shifts. Overall, I believe he thinks it was OK since he’s not complaining about anything other than his shoes. The transportation to and from the second IM rotation hospital is fine, thanks to the fact that the nursing school has been moved to the west campus and therefore school’s shuttle bus goes there frequently.</p>
<p>The attending (or resident?) would keep evaluating the students to see if they are “prepared” and know what they are doing. But I have a hard time knowing what is going on. It appears MS3’s life is very different from MS1/2’s.</p>
<p>D. like to share her experiences. I like to listen (but those calls during surgery rotation were not what I was looking forward to). She will have IM after New Year. She had problem with her feet only during surgery but learn to alternate her shoes and it resolved her problem.
mcat2,
may I suggest for your S. to try different (comfortable) pairs every day. D. indicated that different pairs have slightly different pressure points and that what has helped her. She did not buy those ugly expansive shoes that everybody is swearing about. Well, she did not buy them…because they are ugly.</p>
<p>MiamiDAP, I actually suggested DS to use two pairs of shoes when I learned from you first post about it some time ago. Unfortunately, he is not willing to take this wonderful advice. His reason is that he may buy that kind of ugly surgery shoes later so he does not want to “waste” money on another pair of shoes. He could be quite stubborn when we try to buy something for him. We will try to convince him again during his winter break.</p>
<p>He did say he likes the “expansive” 
pair of shoes we shipped to him.</p>
<p>After two long flights with a pit stop in between in London, finally landed in India. India’s southern power grid apparently has been experiencing problems as a result of disruptions at some plants because of political agitations in a southern state. Power cuts have become a nuisance even in cities like Bangalore.</p>
<p>In the meanwhile, my son got an interview invite from Northwestern on Sunday! Looks like adcoms there work hard. This his 12th of the cycle. At this point, he is really hoping to get an acceptance in his hand on Oct 15th, so that he can take a hard at look at his remaining list and make some decisions. I suppose, its a nice problem to have.</p>
<p>Congrats Kal. Where did you land? My home state is having an agitation and I have been told my mother has no power now for a day or two.</p>
<p>I attended a Stanford game about the 20th. The band is wacky and they had this line at half time.</p>
<p>“we have some advice for freshmen. Stanford is where 99% of the students find their partner before they graduate… or so we read on college confidential.”</p>
<p>So they might be researching and not calling people who have significant others to interviews (hint hint). :D</p>
<p>texaspg,</p>
<p>Thanks. I landed in the early hours of Monday. Sorry to hear that your mom’s home has no power. I didn’t realize that you are from this part of the world.</p>
<p>A degree from Stanford along with a Stanford graduate as a partner - worth every penny of the tuition ;)</p>