<p>I saw the email because on mailing list for current Olin students. Not sure if it was posted somewhere online. </p>
<p>OperaDad - I was under the impression that Olin tries to fill all “need” (as defined by FAFSA EFC), if there is need left after the half tuition scholarship. But I could not find that stated online. Maybe others can add info - FA might be easy to predict.</p>
<p>Operadad - If I recall correctly from CW, they were going to try to send the info either together or near the same time. I may have misunderstood. Did you run the online calculator? They only use the FAFSA so it seems very straightforward.</p>
<p>Momengineering - my D feels the same. Olin is absolutely her #1 choice.</p>
<p>There are some “unofficial” photos floating on Facebook, but Mike (our resident photographer) is pretty busy right now. Most recently uploaded pictures are from November.</p>
<p>I’m curious about the post CW evaluation process. The website says, “We use the applications to select the Candidates; we use Candidates’ Weekends to select the class.” </p>
<p>Are the final acceptances among the Candidates is based solely on comparing the observations of the teams of 3 people during the group/individual interview, without any consideration of anything in the Candidates’ applications? </p>
<p>If so, some Candidates are interviewed in CW by Admissions, who know the applications, and others only get Alum, who reportedly are not allowed to see the applications. How then is the post-CW advocacy of Admissions interviewees equalized with Alum interviewees for those with exceptionally strong applications?</p>
<p>When you are interviewing for a job, the first cut is whether you are qualified. Qualified people are invited to interview. At the first interview, they determine whether you can really do the job. If this is done by Human Resources, then there is a second interview by the people who you will work for/with. Finally, there can be a third interview where a high level person makes sure they like you and are a good fit for the organization.</p>
<p>I’m guessing with Olin, the first cut is getting the best qualified students. Those students are invited to CW, where everything else is evaluated. They see your personality, they see how you interact with other kids socially and in a team, they see whether you are a leader or follower, they see whether you are an idea person or a person that can make things happen (take the ball and run with it).</p>
<p>In the interview process they see your personality up close. They don’t need to know your background. Everyone invited to CW is presumed to be academically qualified. The interviewer is looking for more. How do you present yourself. Do you exude passion. Can you excite your classmates. Will you be a good fit.</p>
<p>"Are the final acceptances …, without any consideration of anything in the Candidates’ applications? "</p>
<p>I’m guessing for most people the application is moot by the time you get to CW. You are qualified. The question is whether you are a good fit - Can you benefit from Olin, and will Olin benefit from you being there? </p>
<p>When does 7+7 = 10? If you are good in academics, and a good fit for Olin, then you are in. If you are great academically but a lousy fit, then you are out. The weaker your application, the more you have to shine at CW to get admitted.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts O.D.! I’m primarily asking about the wait list vs accept decisions, in which we can assume all the students proved to have an excellent match in personality and interests since all are invited to attend this or next year. (I am also only talking about candidates with exceptionally strong applications, not weak ones.) </p>
<p>Does your last statement mean that applications are re-reviewed and considered along with the interview notes after CW?</p>
<p>To answer your questions directly:
Yes, the final acceptances are based solely on comparing the observations of the teams of 3 people during the group/individual interview, without any consideration of anything in the Candidates’ applications.</p>
<p>When we create those 3 person teams, they are specifically assigned so that no one who has read an application will be interviewed by someone who has read that state. For example, I read FL, IL, and MA. I did not interview anyone from any of those states. Also, for the record, when an application is initially read it is read by a team of people consisting of Admission staff, faculty, staff, and possibly alumni. Alumni are not barred from reading teams, however most do not participate because it is difficult for them to come to Olin in person to pick up the applications, read them, and drop them off in a timely manner. </p>
<p>Additionally, the Admission office does not make the final decisions. The Admission Committee is made up of faculty members and several staff. No one from Admission, including Dean Nolan, have any vote.</p>
<p>The Admission Committee knows that folks on the waitlist are all potential Olin students, since we have the defer option. The waitlist is truly a place for those students who we wished we could take but we can’t because of our size.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for the clarification. Your description will be very useful for future applicants to understand the process better. We wish you the best as you enter your second decade!</p>